mozzam begg was a british man living in pakistan, my comment on the great american dream was that is the great american dream to take foreigners from their homes, ship them half way acroos the globe for 3 years and torture them? what all of a sudden all foreigners don't have rights as well? everyone, EVERYONE is entitled to basic human rights no matter what race, nationality or creed the are even if they are mass murders, rapist, war criminals or the most hated man in the world, hitler, mugawbe, pol pot and stalin should all be treated with the same human rights that we all are. that's what's was agreed to by the united states.

now for the US to turn round for it to say "we changed our laws so know we can mentally abuse and both physically and mentally torture this for 3 years" or "he's foreign so why should i give a damn" or "we think he's a bad man so we should be able to break his skull"

and sasquatch to shoot the man would be illegal under american law. you need to give prior warning before a police officer discharged his fire arm. and if you don't give prior warning you don't know if they are a danger, and if you don't know if they are a danger you might just be shooting someone sat in their van wating for a friend. try explaing that one to his wife "yeah we thought he was a terrorist so he blew his brains out, sorry about that one, maybe next time we'll find a real terrorist"

sasquatch you never actually answered my question, there are after all american prisoners in quantanamo bay. would you mind having your door kicked in and dragged off to cuba for 3 years without any contact with the outside world and be tortured? is that the future of americans you are fighting for? because that can happy regardless of innocence, it's happened before it can happen again? is that the kind of thing you would like to happen to you? if not then why should it happen to other innocent men?