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    Two Question's did this band change the way rock music was going in the 90s and was Kurt Cobain murdered?

    What do you think?

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    No, they rode the wave, but they certainly didn't start it.

    And no, he shot himself.

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    Better question: would they be as well known if Cobain was still alive?
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    Yes they change it and No, Kurt Cobain killed himself.
    And they wouldnt be as famous if Cobain was still alive (god bless his soul).

    Go Nirvana.

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    They didn't start it but they carried it mainstream. I think he killed himself

    I have a Nirvana tattoo on my left shoulder
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    I think he shot himself and that they didn't really change the face of rock in the 90's, although they were good.
    I don't think they'd be quite as well known if he'd survived, as it seems like when an artist or a member of a band dies, they gain insane amounts of fame. Tupac being an example, I feel. Good musician, but hardly the king of rap surely?
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    Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself... Courtney Love did.
    I've believed that for years... and I still believe that's the truth.



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    I don't really think they changed anything, but they had a good sound for the time. I am not sure if he killed himself or not. I can see both sides there.

    On a more personal note, I believe that if Kurt didn't die, they would not be NEARLY as popular as they are today. Most of the teens who claim to like them today are just saying that to be cool. I'm 22 (almost 23), and I was just old enough for them to be part of "my generation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephex
    On a more personal note, I believe that if Kurt didn't die, they would not be NEARLY as popular as they are today. Most of the teens who claim to like them today are just saying that to be cool. I'm 22 (almost 23), and I was just old enough for them to be part of "my generation".
    Ah yes, the Nirvana phase, usually preceeded by the Good Charlotte/Blink 182 phase, and often followed by the Metallica phase. And occasionally on from there by the Cradle Of Filth/other heavily make-uped screaming band phase as the kids grow.

    If nothing else Kurt had damn fine hair during their later years.
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    I'm 22 (almost 23), and I was just old enough for them to be part of "my generation".
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    "Two Question's did this band change the way rock music was going in the 90s and was Kurt Cobain murdered?"

    Somewhat, and yes. He was on enough drugs that I don't see how it would've been physically possible to kill himself. Love's own FATHER said once that he wouldn't be surprised if she killed him. Creepy.

    "Better question: would they be as well known if Cobain was still alive?"

    I've never understood why everything thinks that Nirvana is so overrated and that they would be nothing if Kurt hadn't killed himself. I had liked Nirvana for quite a while before I knew he killed himself. :P Besides that, it just doesn't work that way. Would the beatles still be well known if John hadn't been killed? Of course! It ONLY causes waves in the music industry/populace if the band is already popular. How many people outside of metal-lovers know who Dimebag Darrel is? How about that he died recently? Nirvana was already bigger than that when Kurt died.

    "Most of the teens who claim to like them today are just saying that to be cool. I'm 22 (almost 23), and I was just old enough for them to be part of "my generation"."

    Was? Why the hell do you have to like the music right when it comes out to have an opinion? That's just silly. Music is music, it doesn't matter when you listen to or like it. I didn't like Nirvana until about 5 years ago.

    I think Nirvana deserves their fame. they're hardly hailed as the best band ever or anything, just very good. I think they were very good. Lyrically, melodically, technically. They were just very good. They were great at their heavy grungey sound, but also showed they had a softer side with songs like Polly and their unplugged album (which is excellent, I should mention!).

    Just because they didn't invent grunge doesn't mean they didn't change rock, at least somewhat. I don't think saying "they brough the sound mainstream" and "they didn't change rock" make sense. They were part of a turn in music where heavier stuff was being brought mainstream.

    People are always so completely critical of Nirvana. It seems like the new elitist "cool" thing to do, nevermind teens liking Nirvana.

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    What Kurts death did was make them even more explotable so yes i have to say they went from famous to legendary after that and the myth that kurt was murdered only adds to that. Like jim morrison or Sid and Nancy its all part of Rock 'n' Roll. I think if Kurt was still alive he wouldnt be performing anymore maybe a producer or a song writer. He did once say thats what he would like to do.

    People always seem to interperate the whole setting surrounding the MTV unplugged performance as "like a funeral" and "kurt was almost singing at his own funeral."
    I disagree with that strongly, I think that Cobain had envision a funeral, but not for himself. A funeral for Nirvana. He wanted out of the band there was no denying that. I couldnt see how he would kill himself. Dave Grohl stated that Kurts outlook on life changed after his daughter Francis Bean was born. I guess we'll never know that though.

    Personally though, those last lines on the suicide note always bothered me...

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    Goin' with Elly on this one.

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