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    Batista and Bradshaw suck, therefore Smackdown sucks. Or the last half hour of it does at least.

    I must watch that Raw.

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    Yep, RAW has given me another thing to look foward to.

    And I don't think it'll be a return of Brock Lesnar, I heard he turned down the contract (but I heard this on a chatroom).

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    WWE did say that Brock Lesnar turned down their offer on their website, but you have to take that with a grain of salt. It's very possible that they are trying to swerve us.

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    Yeah but Im willing to bet that is just a work. I mean, why the hell would they make a big deal about Brock talking with vince and post it on their website. They have never done this before. I just hope that this is all a work. SD! really needs Brock. And after reading what he said during his interview as to why he wants to return. I dont see why he would refuse a contract. It just doenst make sense.

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    This is awesome news for Eddie fans (like moi)... Eddie beat Rey! AT LEAST!

    PS: I hope WWE has some good storyline for him after that ;P

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    I HATE HOW JOHN CENA KEEPS WINNING THESE "AGAINST THE ODDS" 2-ON-1 HANDICAP MATCHES. First he beat Jericho and Carlito, now he beat Angle and Tomko. Oh, and let's not forget how he beat Snitsky in a lumberjack match after every heel on Raw attacked him for the entire match. I don't care if it's suppose to make him look like a "fighting" champion, because all they are doing is making his PPV opponent look uncredible. How are we suppose to believe that Kurt Angle has a shot of beating him at Unforgiven one on one when he can't even beat him two on one?

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    It's the same formula that they've used with other champions. They did it with Hogan, Austin, The Rock and now Cena. It's not a big surprize that they're building Cena like this, I just wish that Cena would improve more to warrent the push.

    To me Cena's just gotten really bland. It's the same promos, the same 6 moves and same old crap. I'm glad that he's in a feud with Angle because like Jericho, Angle can make Cena look credible inside the ring but Cena needs to become heel again or something to freshen up his character.
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    Hogan, Rock, Austin, ect. would win handicap matches against midcarders. I don't think they ever won handicap matches against the person they were scheduled to face at the next PPV. It would have been wiser for Kurt Angle to beat John Cena in the handicap match, because not only would John Cena keep his crediblity since it was 2 on 1, but it would also make people believe Kurt Angle as a credible challenger. One of the reasons Ric Flair one of the greatest champions of all time is because I didn't matter if he was face or heel, he always made his opponents look credible.

    Basicly, I'm tired of the "Superman" champion build. Or maybe I'm just tired of Cena.
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    Wow, we have more fans here than I thought.

    Yeah, I'd like for Cena to lose already too, but that may be just because I'm a fan of Jericho's [Go Fozzy ]

    But still, the Rock's the best eva
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    If you don't like the "superman" build up, then I suggest you stop watching the WWF/WWE. It's the same booking that they've always used. In the WWF/WWE they usually had the face champion (Hogan, Austin, Rock, etc) always overcoming the next to impossible odds to defeat all comers to keep the belt. Hogan had whoever Bobby "The Brain Hennan was managing at the time the overcome. Austin had the overcome the "evil promoter" Vince and his Corporation to overcome. Then once in a while the heel would beat the champion somehow only to have the face overcome those obsticles and regain the title.

    In NWA/WCW, it was always the other way around with the heel always on top and the face trying to knock him down. Ric Flair would usually have the belt and have guys like Sting, Luger, Steamboat and others trying to get the belt. Flair usually had the Horsemen to back him up if he got in trouble and to help keep the title on him. And when the face challenger would win, it would be long before Flair got the belt back through nefarious means. Some thing with Hogan with the NWO.

    Besides, I don't think that having Angle lose a Handicap match makes him look weak, especially when he's not the one being pinned. After the match he nearly destoryed Cena's ankle anyway, therefore softening him up for the PPV. At the same time, we all know that Cena's going the match on Sunday, not because Angle isn't a credible challenger but because Cena unfortunatly is till super over with little kids and girls.

    I mean look at the matchs he had at Summerslam or the next night on RAW with Jericho. You could hear them going back and forth. The little punks and all the chicks were chanting for Cena, while all the men and older wrestling fans were chanting for Jericho. 10 bucks say the same thing happens at Unforgiven this coming Sunday.
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    Yeah, the diffrences is Austin's superman build owned. Cena's sucks. For the record, I don't hate Cena, so the build legitimately sucks cock.

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    True, not all "Superman" builds suck. I can buy Batista in his role because he looks like a monster and his moves (the few that he executes well) look painful. I just am really annoyed with Cena right now, so I'm going to probably be annoyed with anything he does until he stops sucking.

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    On that we both can agree on. And as for Batista, I agree that he looks more believible in the "Superman" role because he looks the part more and those matches with HHH built him up huge. His matches with JBL were a piece of crap but now that he's going to be going up against Eddy Guerrero for the title at No Mercy, that should repair some of the damage that JBL did Batista's credibility.
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    Eddie getting another title shot is a step in the right direction. I agree that Cena would be better as a heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Mage FF1
    AHAHA watch this video. This is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

    http://rapidshare.de/files/966639/Final.wmv.html


    Goldberg is such and idiot. I laughed so hard when he knocked himself out on the ring post.
    Thank you for that video. I can already hear the YFU chants. The one with Lita really looked bad, she landed right on her neck. The last one with the botched move (the second to last one where some guy sits on top of a pile driver or something) looked awfully painful. The funniest part was where Kane tried to do a spear to the outside, but got caught in the ropes right before the steel hair was suppose to hit him...it was so smurfing hilarious. The one with the bear custom completely missing the Senton bomb was monsteriously hilarious. Also, the two guys on the rooftop hitting the table was hilarious too...after seeing them in pain.

    Anyone who hasn't seen it, wrestling fan or not, should.

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