pedos are trash on this planet.. kill'em all
Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER
I wish everyone was as understanding as you @_@;; I feel age shouldnt matter too much as long as both people care about one another and have that intent of love.
Has someone been making multiple accounts?
(What other opinions would be expected than "I say if you love someone it doesn't matter who they are. [Even if they're eight years old.]" from somebody who announces themself as a supporter of Micheal Jackson? Talk about paedophiles and child molesters...)
A while ago, homosexuality was considered vile, disgusting, and unnatural. Now, I still consider it as such, but society has changed their views on this and accepted it as simply an "alternative" to heterosexuality. Paedophilia (or carrying it out, rather, in child molestation) and beastiality are still, as far as I know, considered to be pretty damn sick. As they should be.
The italicised is paraphrased and/or quoted directly from another member, through instant messaging.
Alfred Kinsey was the first one to normalize homosexuality, and his research in "sexuality and the human male" and "sexuality and the human female", so flawed it simply has to be fixed [(as in rigged, not in need of repair)], was used in the 1968 decision by the APA [(American Psychiatric Association...also my (Sasquatch) initials--just a coincidence)] to declassify homosexuality as a sexual disorder. It's the same research that NAMBLA [(North American Man-Boy Love Association)] is now using to lobby for the declassification of pedophilia.
Among Kinsey's tricks was to take 25% of his surveys among convicted prisoners--not exactly an accurate profile of the population. In "Sexuality and the human female" he considered prostitutes and any woman living with the same man for more than a year as "married women". And page 33 of "Sexuality and the Human Male" has a little chart... times to reach orgasm, for boys ranging from 14 years to 5 months.
The two men who killed 10-year-ol Jeffery Curley while trying to kidnap him for rape were both members [of NAMBLA]. His parents are suing, and the ACLU is defending them.
Kinsey made it clear in his statements that he thought people should experience a variety of sex--heterosexual, homosexual, group, beastiality, etc.--~before~ age 6---before "preconcieved notions" set in.
One of his little advancements was the seven-point scale, with heterosexuality at one extreme and homosexuality at the other, to make it appear that both were equally extreme and bisexuality was the norm. That was in "sexuality and the Human Male" published in 1948; my psychiatry teacher in college showed it to us as "the latest research".
lionx, I don't believe Garnet was referring to all perverted people in general. Only those who enjoy sex with children ("consent" or no), and possibly others equally as disturbed.
I still just can't comprehend how someone could look at pedophilia, beastiality and homosexuality being equivalent...and I honestly don't believe anyone actually does. Infact, I refuse to believe someone is that....well...use your imagination to finish the sentence negatively.
Originally Posted by jrgen
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The difference between peadophilia and homosexuality is that the physical act of being homosexual is sex. The physical act of peadophilia is rape.
To me if its consenting i cant see too much of a problem either way. You might think differently but i dont see it as anything different.
I dont see how homosexuality is an alternative, i think its in a class of its own as much as any of the other forms out there including hetrosexuality and stuff. I do not consider hetrosexuality the norm, i dont really consider any of them the norm, just what it is, and thats what people like. I actually find prejudice that comes from some people sick more than someone loving another person of the same sex or of a different species. The most disturbed are those that hate another because they are different, for to me does it matter if they dont bother you? No.
DMKA i actually dont think it was that funny that article, becuase obviously there are people out there like that. They usually get shunned by other forums and i think i know someone from another forum that is like that and he is a pretty nice person in general. I find he is the normal person just like you and me, he just has a different preference, and who are you to say its less meaningful? Its not even your thing.
So yeahto the haters.
I still think that if a child is consenting, its not really rape...because they are willing to do it whether their mind are up to snuff or not. And despite what you think, if the person cares i think it wouldnt be so bad for both of them, maybe in a different world it might even be fine to us. it just so happens that more often than not it does hurt the child, and thats where i dont like about it and i think most people have a problem with(which is logical to be concerned of).
I also feel everyone should be bisexual in a way, less hate in general wouldnt it? Least we wont have any of that homosexual prejudice.
It's not ALWAYS rape. I was a kid my self you know...
I laughed my ass off at that site. The sad thing is that it's true, and there really are people out that that are like that.
And that's right, DMKA. You just keep on thinking that everybody who disagrees with you is such a bad person.
"The difference between peadophilia and homosexuality is that the physical act of being homosexual is sex. The physical act of peadophilia is rape."
I would agree with that, but I would also point out that it's the only difference.
As for the other primary post, I don't think that even warrants a reply. Comedic relief abounds in this forum.
(EDIT: So we have one guy talking about how it's perfectly natural to want to have sex with anything and everything--from people of the same sex, to children, to animals--and his sidekick in the argument, who's sig translates into "little hampsters, big adventures", and who is an open supporter of Micheal Jackson, a known paedophile and child molester. Tell me people take this seriously.)
Last edited by Sasquatch; 04-25-2005 at 09:17 PM.
Michael Jackson is not a paedophile. I should know as I have been around many so I can pick them out easily.
(EDIT: So we have one guy talking about how it's perfectly natural to want to have sex with anything and everything--from people of the same sex, to children, to animals--and his sidekick in the argument, who's sig translates into "little hampsters, big adventures", and who is an open supporter of Micheal Jackson, a known paedophile and child molester. Tell me people take this seriously.)And that's right, DMKA. You just keep on thinking that everybody who disagrees with you is such a bad person.
Hate to tell you, but NO ONE can "pick them out easily". Unless you walk in on one while he's pleasuring himself to a recording of his 9yo. daughter's ballerina recital. That's a solid givaway. They come in every shape and size. Race, gender, (post-pubescent) age, creed, country, language, or any social denomination, you'll find pedophiles are usually as ordinary as everyone else (except that distinction).Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER
Look, young teens, even children can and have been seduced. It really was seduction, the children have as much as said it when they were older. But, the shame, the emotional damage, it doesn't change if the child agrees or fights back or anything. It doesn't change, never changes, to believe a child can be in a healthy sexual/romantic relationship with an adult truly is insane.
Oh, and the definition of insanity "repeating the same action over and over again, yet expecting a different outcome" is exactly the right word. Because the outcome is always the same: permament damage to the child which will last, probably, their entire lives. Which have a tendancy to end with suicide or drug overdose. You damn them to never being able to hold a stable relationship, at very least. Because some pervert put their "love" over the well-being of the child, that child will suffer for the rest of his/her life.
I've seen it too often, I've personally treated some of them. I've talked to them, listened to their stories, the entire time calming them and helping them... the entire time... wishing that I could somehow satisfy my desire to kill those monsters with my bare hands. Anyone who knows the aftermath could NEVER condone the act... except other monsters.
It's one of the reason I quit psychology... I couldn't seperate from my emotions enough to effectively help. Every time, I got a little closer to just throwing away my resistance, hunting down, and torturing those scumbags until they begged me for death. The difference between my and they becomes clearest at this point: they give to their temptation, I resist mine.
I think you are a kind and accepting person Sasquatch i am pretty sure all your posts are filled with it.
I think whatever that you prefer, but doesnt hurt anyone, is fine. Does it bother you? Not unless you make it. I find it even more sad that people would just be all shun-ish to people that have different tastes.
Maybe its the mindset that things wont ever be better that stop is from being so. I honestly doubt that it is insane at all, if you think so, then i am insane, but from my viewpoint thats not true. Its only true if you think it is.
I know someone who is homosexual and was raped many times and hurt becuase of that in the place that he lives. Now he is fine and i really think he could have a relationship. Its hard i would know that but he is working his way around it and i truly believe that with effort he can make a lasting relationship. I dont like what the people did because they did not agree with his orientation, but i really cannot bring myself to kill anyone...and well lets just say i think this is the exception not the norm. if you think i am a monster for thinking this way then fine, but i am really sure, things would work out for this person.
If you really wanna know about this, the person is in a relationship where the person is 18, and he is 14, relationship and things seem to be fine the way it is and with effort i think it would be fine.
And we should try to focus on that rather than the killing.The difference between my and they becomes clearest at this point: they give to their temptation, I resist mine.
Yep, and if we stop believing in gravity, maybe IT will stop, too. I do believe I used the analogy that it's like tossing someone out the 20th story building to land on the concrete below. The damage is inevitable, the only question is how much. Some get up and limp away, others are destroyed entirely.Originally Posted by lionx
The difference between my and they becomes clearest at this point: they give to their temptation, I resist mine.Focus on what? That I'm a decent human being, and they are not? I already know this, thank you.Originally Posted by lionx
Oh, and you really ARE insane. Denial is a form of insanity, FYI.