However, no matter what for discipline comes in, if it isn't done in the right way, it isn't going to make a positive difference.As I said, discipline does not neccesary mean spankings.
However, no matter what for discipline comes in, if it isn't done in the right way, it isn't going to make a positive difference.As I said, discipline does not neccesary mean spankings.
I didn't have phsical discipline etheir, and I think not giving it is the best way to go. If you can raise a kid to behave without physical discipline, I think you have done very well as a parnet. My dad says he only remebers spanking me once, and I don't even remember it. This girl just needs to be noticed I think.
I had physical discipline. Until I was about that age. Then it vanished and me and my parents came to some kinda understanding somehow. I was a little heathen myself. Then suddenly became a really great kid. Dunno what exactly happened. But it should be noted, some kids just can't control themselves, or their temper. A lot of time it's either a mental disability, or a physically mental defect (something is literally wrong with their brain). Of course putting hand cuffs on a kid really isn't going to diagnose something like that. I just wanted to broach the subject. It's not always a parent's parenting at fault (or lack there of).
Oh come the hell on people. The little girl is 5 years old! When does the maddness stop. You dont put handcuffs on a 5year old. period. Handcuffs hurt. Can you imagine how tight they would have had to be on her to make them stay on. I saw the footage this morning and while it was bad, it wasnt like she's all of a sudden a hardened criminal. Now yes, the girl does need some discipline, a whole lot acually. But those police should not have put hand cuffs on that child. I dont mind the fact that they called the police, but the handcuffs was unnesasarry. I would understand if it was a junior high student, or a high school student, but this a little girl with a temper problem. And you all are making it seem like shes the worst thing ever. Please, get real. It wasnt that serious.
Im glad the mother is sueing the police. Dumb ass police putting cuffs on a little kid for no reason. Next thing you know, they will be placing assult Charges on babies for throwing milk bottles at people. All that little girl needed was a good spanking infront of the whole class like i used to get when i was her age. That would solve the problem right there.
Speaking of spankings and such. I think they are needed. I mean, sometimes you have kids that just dont listen. I mean, timeout and punishment never would have worked for me. So its on a child to child basis on how you choose to discipline them. Kids are sometimes like domestic animals. You gotta train them. If you dont, they will try you. And once they get away with it one time, they will keep doing it. Its just like, Yelling at a dog wont make it stop pissing on the rug, but try spanking it a few times and see what happens.
I'll admit I'm one of those idiots that didn't read the article. I just read this thread before responding. But someone did mention that the handcuffs were RUBBER (: They weren't metal and locked all the way down. So it's not as bad as it sounds. And I think it was likely more to scare her into behaving. If you were five... a cop on the premises didn't scare you. You felt like kicking and hitting him... I would think pinning you down and cuffing you would slap SOME sense into you.
So you propose a spanking is better? Cuffs aren't meant to cause injury, especially since they were rubber. Spanking is now portrayed as violence by the media. If they had caught THAT on tape, she'd be able to sue the school. And win so easily... The cops were at least doing their job. So it's likely she might lose the suit. And I hope she does lose. She doesn't deserve money for raising a heathen. But in the end it's really all dependant on the limits of disciplenary action by people who are NOT her parents. What exactly are they supposed to do that they're actually allowed to do?
By the way, hitting a dog might work... but you have to consider a dog doesn't have the same comprehension skills as a human. Especially if you don't catch them IN the act. If you hit them afterward, they're just gonna think you're mean and end up anxious around you, expecting that you'll just suddenly want to hit them again for no reason, because that's how they precieve it. POSITIVE reinforcement is the BEST way. Just something I picked up working with animals and all... Violence of any degree should never have to be a last resort.
They cuffed the child (with plastic ties, not real cuffs, as real ones do not fit), to prevent her hurting herself or other people. What should they have done? Lets the kid run a rampage? Let the kid hurt the teachers and the police? Being kicked around by a five year old in the middle of a tantrum hurts. I've been there. Its not pleasant. They cuffed the child for her own safety. They didnt press charges, and had no plan to.
It's not 'dumb ass' of the police to handle a situation in the way they're trained to. If any teacher or police officer would have spanked the kid, the mother would sue them six ways to Sunday. These are the way things must be handled in this country to avoid litigation.
Ah the zip-tie cuffs. Not rubber, but still hardly dangerous.
5 years old and 4'5? wtf? the average 5 year old is only around 3'2 she must have been on steroids
she must have some major form of some Attention seeking hyperactivity disorder or autism
really teachers couldnt do anything handling a child unauthorized to council can lead to fines of up to £4000 child abuse policies even smacking a child these days is classed as abuse what do you think people have to do for discipline?
they should sue her parents around 2 grand for not giving their child discipline if they did she wouldnt have attacked irresponsible parents throw them into a volcano!
i reckon these are weird and only half true
LET THE HAMMER FALL
Yes Just ask her mom! That's why she's sueing!Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
You see, it never fails. They had law enforcement handle it, and still someone is getting sued.
I like Kung-Fu.
Filing a law suit doesn't atutomatically mean you'll win ^_^
It does, however, mean that the school and department will lose money paying for court costs, lawyers, etc. Just because somebody doesn't win a lawsuit doesn't mean they're not costing the opponent money.
It's a good chance she'll win. There was a case not too long ago where a pair of college girls decided to do something nice for the neighborhood as a random act of kindness and they baked cookies and left them for people. A woman sued because of the fact that the cookies surprised her. And she won. America is obsessed with frivilous lawsuits.
Were they college girls? I thought they were older teenagers, like one was 18 and one was 16 or 17? I remember at least one of 'em was an attractive girl.
But yeah, I definitely know what you mean. It's ridiculous.
I don't mean to sound racist here, but the fact that the little girl is black will probably play a large part in the court preceedings, depending on the race of the teachers and police officers. You can bet that if everybody else was white, the race card is definitely gonna be put into play.
lol. those teachers are pathetic. the kid obviously needs discipline, and the parents are to blame as well, but i mean, damn. "oh no, the little 5 year olds trying to hit me! and im a huge frickin sissy so im gonna go call the cops about it!!" even if i didnt want to hold her back to risk lawsuit id probably just start cracking up if a 5 year old tried to hit me. its not like it would hurt or anything. and when there that young, arent the teachers allowed to spank them or something?!?
Thankfully, no.and when there that young, arent the teachers allowed to spank them or something?!?
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