I dunno, I dont remember the exact ages. And that race thing wouldnt surprise me, which is sad.Originally Posted by Sasquatch
And as for 'cracking a 5 year old', Excelsior, that's pretty pathetic.
I dunno, I dont remember the exact ages. And that race thing wouldnt surprise me, which is sad.
And as for 'cracking a 5 year old', Excelsior, that's pretty pathetic.
good post! especially the last part. Don't beat your animals people. Geez.
Nay-sayers, what would you have done if a 5-year-old was going hysterical, and kicking and punching you hard when you were trying to restrain her nicely? I don't see what choice they had, the girl was going berserk.
That's what I was thinking (and that's sad). =/
And Excelsior, they actually do have corpral punishment still in some states, but even then, you can't just grab the kid and spank them for getting out of line like a parent can...it just doesn't work that way (thank goodness).
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Ok i saw this on the news this morn, i seriously think the school way over reacted. I mean how often does a 5 year old kid just act out.....EVERYDAY! A parent doesnt cuff their kids and put her in a police car. Ive seen teachers literally carry 9th grade boys away for fighting, and they cant handle a five year old girl.......pathetic.
Interesting side note: The same school recently had a child run out of the classroom, out of the school, of the grounds and get hit by a car.....they are looking for a link btw the happenings
She didnt 'just act out'. She was attacking the teachers. Its not that they couldnt physically handle her, its that they arent ALLOWED to. The way a ninth grade can be handled is NOT the same way a five year old can be handled. And, fyi, they do call the cops on older students who do such thing. They did this for the safety of the child and the teachers and to hopefully avoid litigation, which it seems they will not.
I've yet to see anyone who says this is stupid and pathetic suggest a way to handle it short of beating the child to a bloody pulp.
*cowers away from abom.
Well all im saying is parents handle their kids without calling the police. The mother asked the child not to deal with the assistant principal, and the school took no actions against it. It is still a little girl acting out, it happens, and will always continue to happen. It should be made into a a federal dispute (not that it is, but it could soon be). Child deserves punishment, but i personally think police were unneeded *nods*
All cower before me! (SPOILER)Sorry if I come off as too aggressive
Not all parents handle their kids that well, and understand that a parent has a lot more freedom in how to handle their child. While a parent could send the kid to their room and let them freak out and throw fits, a teacher could not. If the teachers in this situation were to, say, put the kid in an empty room until she calmed down, and the kid hurt herself in the process, the teachers would be at fault and would be in trouble. Teachers do not get this same freedom when handling another person's kid.
I know kids acting out happens, but this is way over the top and very overblown. Something is very wrong with her situation somewhere down the line.
The police were needed, though, because that child could easily have hurt someone else or herself, and then, again, the school would be in trouble. Calling the police in situations like that is the best thing to do, because they have more resources at their disposal, and more rights when it comes to handling other people, even children.
I still dont believe that they should have handcuff a little girl. I dont care if she was unrulely or not. i dont care if they were the plastic ties.
You know, i hate to start this with you, but im gonna anyway. If that little girl had been white, They would have never put cuffs on her. period. Now, im not saying that the cops are racists. LET ME REPEAT THIS FOR YOU SASQUATCH. IM NOT SAYING THOSE COPS WERE RACISTS. All im saying is, thats the way things work in florida. Also, im willing to bet that if they had know that all of that was being taped, i doubt they would have cuffed her as well. They know that they were wrong, and thats why they are gonna lose that case and have the police department paying out some money.
The state or city would be paying it, depending on the department and/or it's backing. But I'd like to know what exactly is supposed to be so wrong with handcuffing. It's nothing. Like there's some moral issue here? I don't see it...
No, theres nothing wrong with handcuffing. But i dont believe you should be handcuffing a young child like that. She was having a temper tantrum. And alot of people on this board are acting like they never through a fit before. But see, i dont know how many of you on here have children, but i wouldnt want my child being put in no handcuffs like that if she was 5 years old. I dont give a damn what she was doing.
I agree handcuffs were a bit much, however i think the police were needed because the school cannot do anything without getting sued.
This was by no means an ordinary temper tantrum. She was attacking other people for an extended amount of time. It wasnt a temper tantrum.
And saying "They wouldnt have handcuffed her if she were white" is singularily the most ignorant thing I've heard on this board. "That's the way things work in Flordia" is also really dumb. And why do you say the cops would have acted differently if they'd known they were being taped? What did they do wrong from a legal standpoint? Nothing. They didnt strike the child. They didnt injure her. They restrained her, as they would anyone else who was in danger of hurting themselves.
I still have yet to see a single nay-sayer give a logical alternative. What should they have done? Let her hurt other adults? Other children? Herself? Should they have stood there and watched as she physically attacked others? I dont care if she was five. Five year olds can hurt. I've been hit by a five year old before, and it hurts. Especially when they're in the middle of a fit.
So tell me, what should they have done? Any logical conclusions? What should the teachers have done? What should the police have done?
The sad thing is, there isnt a single thing anyone could do in this situation to avoid a lawsuit. If they would have let her hurt someone or herself, they would have been sued. If they restrained her in any way, they would have been sued.
It's true, and it sucks.
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America's favorite thing is frivilous lawsuits.It's true, and it sucks.
I'd also like to add that, for any situation the police are involved in, they have to think about one thing above all else. The safety of everyone involved. What they did hurt no one, and prevented the harm of others.
I'd also like to add that I'm not suckling the proverbial teat of the police. I myself have dealt with numerous 'a-hole' cops, and I've been discriminated against by them and treated like dirt. However, I understand that 1) they're doing their jobs, and so long as they dont violate my rights I'm fine and 2) not all cops are jerks. I state this because I dont want anyone thinking that I'm sticking up for the police in this situation simply because they're the police.
As ignorant as it may sound, thats how i feel. And, no 5 year old can physically hurt an adult. I mean, waht are you, 4' 2' , 69 pounds? Unless your extreamaly small, i dont see how a 5 year old in a fit can hurt an adult.
And Like i said, florida is just like that. Its Racist State, USA. how do i know? ive lived there. And in those small towns and cities, thats just how they treat black people. And they really would have never put a little 5 year old white girl in cuffs.
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