As far as Ashlee goes I like her singing. She has a unique voice and thats not an insult. When she started out she really couldnt sing live but looking at her performances on her second series shes gotten the hang of singing properly. I dont think she took singing that seriously when she started out. I dont care much for her music but her attitude is very irritating. An episode of her show started out with her getting a hair cut, her mother made some comment and the rest of the show was Ashlee whoring about how her mother was a tring to control her life. Christ sake.