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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X

    As far as holding your breath while you sleep though, I've actually done that by accident. I dreamt that I was underwater so I wasn't breathing. It took me awhile to realize I was dreaming and so I finally started breathing. Otherwise, I probably would've died as there are only two things that happen when you can't breathe, passing out or dying. Since I was already asleep, I doubt passing out would've been an option. Unless you think I'd've just ended up in a coma. Heh. A coma as a result of a nightmare, there's a scary thought.
    I've done something similar to that, except I dreamed I was drowning under the ocean when I was actually swallowing my pillow. It was freaky.

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    Personaly I have never wet the bed, so I have no idea what you are talking about. I just wake up at my normal time and have a HUGE urge to pee. If peoples bodily functions stoped when they slept then their hearts would stop beating and their lungs would stop working. People's subconcious can keep people from pissing themselves unless they have, certain problems. Or am I just gifted with a wize bladder?
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    I would say so.

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    I've done something similar to that, except I dreamed I was drowning under the ocean when I was actually swallowing my pillow. It was freaky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X
    Your body doesn't wake you up. You dream about toilets or swimming pools and about being a little little kid. Only if you have will power enough to realize you're dreaming and wake up can you avoid relieving yourself while you sleep. I'm very good at this unless I haven't gone all day, then I make sure to take a trip before I sleep.
    If you haven't gone all day, then you're using your muscles to avoid going, and thus if you fall asleep, your muscles will relax and you'll go.
    While it is possible to pee because of a dream on rare occasions, the vast majority of (adult) people don't -- they wake up when the need gets too great. If this is happening to you often, you may want to see someone about it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X
    As far as holding your breath while you sleep though, I've actually done that by accident. I dreamt that I was underwater so I wasn't breathing. It took me awhile to realize I was dreaming and so I finally started breathing.
    Stopping breathing in your sleep is called Sleep Apnea. If this is happening to you often, you should seriously consider seeing a doctor.

    Both of these conditions are real medical issues. I don't think that a game forum is the right place to be discussing these things, much less joking about them. Seriously, if you are regularly having these issues, you should probably talk to someone about them...

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    ONe time, I had a 'dream' that I was being suffocated by a big black monster covering my face. I dreamt that I was struggling to breath, then I woke up gasping with my heart racing.

    I seriously have no idea how that happened, but I definitely don't have speep apnea. My step father has sleep apnea, and I think it was something connected with his snoring.

    Anyway, I figure that Square just didn't really care how realistic the concept was. I mean hell, look at the jecht shot when tidus is preforming it on his way to luca. I swear to god, he jumps like 10 feet in the air, freezes for about 2 seconds, then starts spinning rapidly. Also, people in FFX swim insanely fast underwater; it's unbelievable.

    I don't know what that blitzball is made of either, but that is one AMAZING ball. I still think it's amazing Wakka can hit flying enemies with a ball, KILLING them, and then catch it right afterwards.

    After watchig the jecht shot, I realized that if you throw a blitzball a certain way, you can literally curve it to insane amouts, hitting a wall and then curving and flying straight into the air. Wow. Have you seen how fast blitzballs fly underwater, by the way? Faster than you can swim (which is about 20 MPH in FFX Blitzball, while the ball flies like 60 MPH).

    All of it is totally rediculous, but yes.. it is jsut a final fantasy, so don't get so worked up about the mechanics of everything. Although it's always good to think about for a laugh. Such as "I just realized that Squall wears like 12 belts, and that lulu has like 30 lined inside her dress. Maybe somebody has a belt fetish?".

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    i try not to flame or put up poinltless topics i was just poining out the fact that the hold there breath cause someone said "the one fing ffx has taught us is that people can breath underwater" and that realy annyed me

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    I thought it had something to do with the pyreflies. I don't recall the source but I remember reading the Blitzballers are somehow able to use pyreflies for some sort of oxygen intake.

    But the wizard doing it sounds more likely.

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    They all have Underwater materia equipped. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocFrance
    They all have Underwater materia equipped. Duh.
    wrong game mate thats ff7 i say this again they hold there breath it even says it in the game if you know where to look (fogot where but do rember)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X
    Quote Originally Posted by Optium
    You don't lose all bodily functions. If you don't pee before you go to bed, you won't automatically pee yourself at night. Your body will wake you up and then you'll go pee.
    Your body doesn't wake you up. You dream about toilets or swimming pools and about being a little little kid. Only if you have will power enough to realize you're dreaming and wake up can you avoid relieving yourself while you sleep. I'm very good at this unless I haven't gone all day, then I make sure to take a trip before I sleep.
    If you haven't gone all day, then you're using your muscles to avoid going, and thus if you fall asleep, your muscles will relax and you'll go.
    I've taken a slash in my dreams and i havent woken up in a wet bed. The body trains itself not too pee whilst ur asleep. you wake yourself up.

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    *Laughs* I mustv'e seen a million topics debating how Blitzball players can breathe under water.
    Did...it occur to anyone that the water is not pure?...because it isn't.
    Notice the black myst when going inside a Save Sphere?
    Yeah, I believe there are some chemicals in the water that make it more breathable, kind of like a semi-balanced substance that's not too dense...and it couldn't be, judging by how fast players can actually move in it.
    Two birds ith one stone, right there. Makes sense, doesn't it?

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    Uhh... you can think whatever you want, but considering how many unrealistic elements are in FFX besides blitzball, I'm willing to bet that the designers simply did not CARE how 'realistic' it was.

    Must I say this again? Tidus stopping in mid air, and then beginning to spin like a top fr no reason at all isn't very realistic either. If you can give an explanation for that without the common 'it's just a fastasy' response, go ahead and try.

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    Tidus has a magical ring which he uses to control the wind. He blows
    papers in people's faces and stuff so that they don't pollute Spira. With his
    four friends' powers combined they create Captain Gaia, a clean cut stud
    in crazy colored spandex who flies around and does other awesome things.
    In order to spin in mid-air, Tidus used his wind powers. In order to swim so
    quickly, Tidus cheats by having his friend with the water ring move the
    water around him and create a stream which he just floats in.

    I just thought of this now actually...people are debating how the
    characters can be underwater for such a long time. But shouldn't the
    better question be, how the hell is there a giant floating sphere of water
    in the middle of an arena?

    Anyway, they do hold their breath. For proof of this, look at all the
    underwater parts in the game, there are only 3 people who can go
    underwater, and they can stay there for a damn long time. The others
    haven't trained so they can't hold their breath for as long as those who
    have.

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    As was previously mentioned at one point, Final Fantasy X: The Eternal Calm (also known as "Final Fantasy X: Another Story") shows us outright that this is all about holding one's breath underwater. The people do not breathe under there. There's no properties of the water or chemicals in them that allow for it.

    This is how The Eternal Calm begins:

    (The scene is the beach in Besaid. Yuna can be heard counting.)

    Yuna: 37... 38... 39... 40... 41...

    (Yuna breaks the surface of the water, and gasps for breath.)

    Yuna: 2 minutes, 41 seconds. My longest yet.

    (Wakka runs down the beach.)

    Wakka: Yuna! It's time!

    Yuna: Coming!

    Wakka (grinning at Yuna with his arms crossed): You're diving like a real pro, ya?

    Yuna: You'll always be the pro, Wakka.

    Wakka: I dunno.

    Wakka: It's been so long since I trained.

    Yuna: You have gotten a little chubby.

    (Wakka laughs, obviously embarassed.)

    Yuna: And you're not even the one having the baby!

    (Wakka runs off.)

    Yuna (narrating): It's been two years. I've learned how to hold my breath for more than two minutes now. It takes more than physical strengths and theres some tricks that can't be taught. It took practice. Lots and lots of practice. I just had to keep trying until I figured it out for myself. You know what? Back then, I didn't think there were any tricks to it at all. I didn't have time to think. An eternal Calm. A slightly chubbly Wakka, and my 2 minutes, 41 seconds. It's not much but it's enough.
    Note that in Final Fantasy X, only Wakka, Tidus, and Rikku had trained for staying underwater for long periods of time. Tidus and Wakka had done so because they were Blitzball players, and Rikku had done so due to training for underwater salvage missions. It is only these three that go underwater at Mt. Gagazet.

    The people simply hold their breath.
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