This reminds me of PETA. They were comparing battery farms to Auschwitz. :grr: As I remember I started a thread about that which spun WAY out of control a while back. Anway I'll stick with my Filet Mignon, lots of nice amino acids.
This reminds me of PETA. They were comparing battery farms to Auschwitz. :grr: As I remember I started a thread about that which spun WAY out of control a while back. Anway I'll stick with my Filet Mignon, lots of nice amino acids.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here this is the War room"
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There are carnivorous deers on an island off the coast of Australia...*cough*
i have the same view on vegans that i do on homosexuals; do what you will, just don't try to get me to do thge same. i'm fine with vegans, they don't bother me. however, when i get a vegan coming up to me saying i'm supporting murder by eating a hamburger, that tends to piss me off. the last time that happened i calmly put my burger down before saying that they are entitled to their own oppinion but to **** off, after that i took the beef patty out of my burger and tossed it into their salad (i'll leave it at that).
point being plants are living things too. they breath (co2) and need water and nutrients like we do. if you're so wraped up in this thing that killing is wrong, when you eat lettuce you're eating a "murdered" plant.
all this said i go back to my original point. you eat what you like and i'll eat what i like, but because you say killing is wrong and i'm only following an instinct that kept us alive for the past 100,000 years, don't come near me because i'll end up getting edgy and you will get cut.
Being wise comes in two parts: 1) having a lot to say and 2) not saying it.
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Aerio--
I figure to stick with normal animals... None of the animals in Australia are normal except sheep--and they were imported.
Seriously, though, I'm sure there are other exceptions to the rule here and there, but in general....
I might have to add the post someone else made to this when I first publicized it (since it was over the Internet, I hesitate to say "published") on DE.
Eat vegans? Pfft, I have an even more modest proposal: eat the children.
Actually, to address the reaction to the commentary "rape milk"... do you even know what the word "rape" means. And I'm impatient, so, if you don't, it means "forcibly use/exploit/take"- not always a sexual act, obviously. Still, aside from the inflamatory use of the word, it's accurate. A little on the overly dramatic side, but true. They're still pretty dumb, but I HATE it when either side of an argument says stupid stuff without understanding the context of that which they mock. Learn your oponent's view, THEN degrade it.
Still, yes, consuption of various organisms is a perfectly natural and healthy activity. Eating people, however, is a VERY GOOD way to cause innumerable disorders. Cannibalism is an unhealthy practice in any species more advanced than insects. Even most scavengers and vermin won't eat their own. And the ones that do, tend to be poorly equipped to survive as a species.
This thread makes me sick.
Abstaining from eating animals is not a backwards practice, it is an attempt to reduce exploitation of other beings. As with any other issue, too many people cross the line from educating others who are willing to learn to becoming propaganda peddling machines, and I'm sure that they will soon realise that these are not effective methods of activism.
If I can eat [getting all the nutrients I require to survive], be clothed and use medication/toiletries that do not actively promote the suffering of animals, then why should I do otherwise? For fashion? For mere taste? Such a notion strikes me as ridiculous.
Convenience? You can't really realistically do that. If you did wish to do that, you'd live in a mud-and-wattle hut and grow your own crops. If you're willing to do that, more power to you, but most of us aren't, we enjoy the benefits that further technology has brought us and will continue to live as we do. The problem isn't so much that someone chooses to eliminate a few animal deaths from their concience (bear in mind, of course, that animals are killed in the making of just about every food we eat, from getting sucked into wheat threshers to being slaughtered by pesticides), but that they'd have the audacity to condemn us for our lifestyle, as well as the fact that they take the moral high ground over something as simple as not killing quite as many animals as we do.If I can eat [getting all the nutrients I require to survive], be clothed and use medication/toiletries that do not actively promote the suffering of animals, then why should I do otherwise? For fashion? For mere taste? Such a notion strikes me as ridiculous.
Not to mention the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of animals that have to die and suffer because of clearing out all the land that we do for our crops. You want murder on a mass scale, it doesn't get bigger than that.
Yeah, I know that animals are killed so that I can eat carrots and alfalfa, and contrary to what people may think, that bothers me to. Having to kill plants bothers me as well. Yes yes, death is inevitable and people need to take advantage of other lifeforms in order to survive.
As for being hoity-toity, "nyer nyer! I've eliminated lactose intolerance and high cholesterol!"
Audacity for condemning your lifestyle? Damn straight I condemn animal cruelty!
Slightly off topic, but not all human infleuence on animal populations is bad, If we (and other predators) did not keep many herbivore populations in check they would over breed.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here this is the War room"
While I agree that conservationists do keep some eco-systems in check, and are doing their part in trying to revive the populations of many endangered species, I still hold the view that we've completely bastardized the planet for the sake of greed.
Udsuna: I want murder on a mass scale? I don't think you know me well enough to be able to make that statement.
I beileve in the Christian God, and he gave man dominion over all the animals therefore, anyone who doesnt is well within their own right to do so and so am i.
Thanks for posting this RN, you are right.
Originally Posted by Mirage
Calliope--
First of all, Udsuna's comment was to reflect that if you want to speak of murder on a mass scale, then it doesn't get ay more massive than that. I very seriously doubt he/she was saying that you approve of genocide.
Abstaining from the eating of animals on the basis that "exploitatioin" of animals is wrong is basically the art of not being human for the sake of lesser creatures. The result, of course, is that we become less even than the lesser creatures--which is why for all the vegan condemnation of normal people, prey animals will still be killed and eaten by predator animals. Mother nature and all that....
Yep... "you want" in this case is a figure of speech that was exactly as Redneck says. Sorry, I just "ass"umed that everyone understood that. And I was calling myself an ass for doing so.
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