how would kyoto force you to shut down industires? it forces you to clean them up. that doesn't mean shtting them down. creating a renewable energy industry as well will bolster the economy because those kind of things need built and maintained. at what point do you lose here?

moazaam begg was alleaged by us officials (who needed areason to have him held illegally for 3 years) to have trained with al qaeda. it's hardly the least biased way to gain information. if the us truly beluved he was an al-qaeda operative why release him?

i don't hate america that much i hate war criminals that much.

actually to be convicted of conspracy requires two things. we'll brak it down to the stone story.

two kids talk about breaking windows with rocks and write out a plan. they ar enot yet guilt of anything. the kids start to collect rocks in a big back. they are no guilty of conspiracy. the kids could have collected rocks in the first place if they had never talked about or written down a plan and would not be guilty. but because they had the plan and the rocks are guilty. planning a terrorist act is therefore not conspiracy until you start buying lots of fertilizer.

actually section 805 does not need a warrant.

the patriot act does break the american consitution and there is plenty of deabte on the matter from various groups and a few attempts to get it changed. and if you really want to be picky the enbaling act and reichstag degree didn't truly break german law.

actually they are suspects. it's what you americans call innocent until proven guilty. they are suspectts because you refuse to try them and instead hold them indefiently much like ther germans did to all those communists. they weren't caught with a terrorist organisation because they weren't all caught on a battlefield or with abig badge saying "al-qaeda rocks" they were picked off the street on the word of the NA.

germany followd the league of nations until the sudentland like america did until it decided to fight an illegal war and make war criminals out of it's soldiers.

as pointed out earlier the invasion was illegal because it was a. not passed by the un, b. not a response to genocide, c. not in retilation. that makes it illegal. and the international support consists of new europe? ex-soviet and balkan states? grmany at least managed italy, spain and japan.

they are suspected terrorists which s illegal and suspected communists which were illegal in 1933. the difference is very slim. communists were blamed in germany for attacks and the reichstag fire in the same way these suspects are blamed for 9-11 and other attacks.

again with begg. american officials who ordered his illegal imprisonment and torture and then released him without charge are not the best people to ask to tell you if he's guilty of a crime or not.

okay we'll start witht he jihad in condensed form. iran had a revolution which turned into an islamic state which had both the technology and benfits of western society while keeping the values of a muslim country. people wanted to see this aagin in other countries and so tried it out. it failed miserably because lots of popl didn't want it (egypt, suadi, iraq etc.) and lots of people died and were put into exile. this didn't stop a few people. so up pop obl and his little friends who decided that maybe the best way is to impress the muslim world by hitting "the great satan" that way folk will be impressed and might be won over. they decide to attack two embassies in africa. not much happens to public opinion so they try again with a bigger attack. which gets them thoroughly bombed.

the program was researched, checked, and shown by the bbc. an organisation which is wholy unbiased and even more so now after the david kelly problem. this kind of means that it's probably unbiased otherwise it wouldn't have been shown. on the bc. in what way is an unbiased documentary, propaganda? it may disagree with many of our views but having been declared biased means it can not be propaganda.