XBox 360 "are you wanting it" thread

[Lionx]

I wont say that solo games will die out but the new revolutionary thing IS online gaming just like before the 3-D aspects of games when N64 and PSX came out and the realism disease spread.

The cool part about online is that you can have a multiplayer game no matter where you live vs anyone in the globe as long as they have the same connection and set ups as you. No more needing to go to arcades to face off with others or go to a friends house and bother them (and limited people to play with that way too), just jack a cord in the wall and instant multiplayer no matter where. With that comes competition and other things like MMORPGs which is the new fad these days.

The reason i play MMOs? I like to play with others, single player RPGs are nice but only play during spare spare time and it does get that lonely feel after a while.

All we are paying is that we can connect to other servers around the globe. Internet is just a bunch of servers, in fact the only thing we pay for is the ability to tap into these servers. The thing is since you are connecting to theirs, you are draining bandwidth amongst other things. If you are going to complain about that then maybe we should also complain to people who offer good webhosting to give it to us for free since we pay for the right to tap in servers. Webhosting is the same deal like EoFF here, we pay to host this site up that uses up the server's bandwidth and electricity. Apply that to a game that requires constant relaying of information and thats what we pay for. Is it the only thing we pay for? No way they do this to make a profit like webhosters, so the same deal is they want profit and its normal.

Difference between paying for webhosting and paying for an online game seems similar enough to me.

No way will gaming become stale that easily..especially if the smaller brand game companies make games will be bought out by bigger companies. You must also know that although solo games out there are fun, most people know that playing with friends only multiply the enjoyment more. Hence where i feel online gaming will become mainstream one day and be a huge cash cow of companies. The problem is that we need the game to last else there is no reason to pay to play something that will die soon. Online game profit > Offline game profit if done right.

ONline gaming is still kinda new in terms of getting great profit in, it has the potential...i am pretty sure at least.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Well, some people, such as my self, would never have even started to play games, had it not been for the single player aspect.

As much as I like MMORPGs, I still find myself enjoying it without playing with other people. In fact, I hardly EVER party with other people, unless I have too. I like seeing people around, it makes it feel like its a world... But I don't need to play with them, and I can completely ignor them if I want too.

With a lot of Xbox games, I always see competition... and to me, competing with people online isn't as appealing as a solo game, or quests.
Not to say that I dont occasionally enjoy fighting someone else... But I'm not going to pay for a system heavilly based on games that are competitive, when there is another system that will most likely offer more of my kind of game. From my point of view, most games I've seen on xbox live are competitive.

In my mind, PS3's online might contain more MMO style games... or even if they are competitive style games... The PS3 isn't as heavilly based on Online play. And Sony knows this, as they said earlier today at E3.

Which brings us back to the point that people are going to choose a console based on the kinds of games they like first, and graphics second.

I'd like to see plenty of games on each system with plenty of good features and different kinds of play... Would be nice if cross platform online games would let people on PS3 play against people on 360! Wouldn't that be cool! ^_^;

Well, whatever, it is a choice of game preference... But I still maintain that PS3 is more powerfull and will have more games that I enjoy on it. Plus I'm sure that the better graphics will pull developers to the system cause there is more they can do with it.lol

I just hope that both companies will make online play less of a hassle than it has been in the past... and NOT make it mandatory...
(and by mandatory I mean that I shouldn't have to pay extra to download content to make my game not suck. And that an equal amount of games wont even have online features, compared to the ones that will.) lol

[Lionx]

Which if you dont play with others i feel the MMO is a failed game. Interaction i feel is key to MMORPGs and which is why i like FFXI since you need to have friends and party for the most part. I wont pay to play a single player game. You can choose not to interact but sitll i feel that defeats the purpose. I can play FFVII and not interact at all.

For those into competition, it comes with Street Figher and Halo..those that have real cash prizes. Competition is what made those games thrive, its a strong point to being online which is why people play it.

The reason why i feel PS isnt going to be online alot is becuase they havent structured a real online game plan yet. What did they do with PS2's? Nothing really besides FFXI who is the only game out there to fully utilize their HDD. Xbox has the knowhow and the PC market under their wraps and therefore will win out on the PS in terms of online gaming which is a huge part of gaming these days.

I still think that if you want online play, the PC and Xbox is for you, and if you dont PS and Nintendo. But i cant say too much on the big N...i mean we know too little...but i am sitll very into that one.

[Tidus Andronicus]

You play MMOs your way, and I'll play them mine... thats the point isn't it? MMOs try to create a world where different players can do what they want... I think thats the idea behind MMOs... not just teamwork. In a game simillar to .hack, I can sit around and do nothing, if thats what I wanted to do. (I use .hack as a model, cause its my idea of a perfect online game xD)

And at this point, no one knows... I still trust Sony will get up enough of an Online system to be a strong competitor to Xbox Live.
Sony has already given their online service a name, and while I don't rememeber it off the top of my head, It was something like Sony World, or Playstation world. lol (Yea it is Playstation World, and sony just said that they don't want to force Online play on users like Microsoft.)

And yea, for online games, I prefer the PC. And I was kind of shocked at first when I heard Consoles were nearing online play. And most of them haven't done it right yet... Microsoft has made the most advances there, but Sony wont be too far behind. Sony has been doing Console games longer than Microsoft.

Even Nintendo has major online plans for their next system. So I dont think that there will be much of a difference as far as online play goes, from system to system. Its likely that all of them will have it soon. So it might not be a feature to differenciate between systems soon. ^_^

At that point, games and graphics will be the deciding factors.

[Lionx]

I don tknow, its just if you pay to play a game that involves other people with it and you dont involve with others i just dont know...i feel it defeats the purpose. Not saying about playing my way or your way it sjust my interpetation and what i wanted in an online game...i mean what makes MMO special? the people of course, games get stale fast without em i learn...its just that without friends i would quit every MMO i played. I feel the point of MMO is that you are there to interact whereas you cant in a single player RPG and an MMO should try to make it so you get a single RPG feel that have people behind them and talk.

But i agree that at this point its the game and content i am looking at...its just i feel online gaming right now is a huge potential of money making and will be a good chunk of money i would invest time in if i was a developer.

[CloudSquallandZidane]

IGN claims its new statistics say Xbox 360 IS MORE POWERFUL THAN PS3.

See them for urself here

[MecaKane]

IGN claims its new statistics say Xbox 360 IS MORE POWERFUL THAN PS3.

See them for urself here

This can only mean ONE THING:
SO MANY MORE 2D GAMES FOR THE 360 NOW!
Oh, I can't wait.

[squareSOFT]

IGN claims its new statistics say Xbox 360 IS MORE POWERFUL THAN PS3.

See them for urself here

Why on earth would anyone listen to IGN?

[MecaKane]

Something does tell me they would say the new buger king chicken burger is more powerful than all three new systems.

[Samuraid]

IGN claims its new statistics say Xbox 360 IS MORE POWERFUL THAN PS3.

See them for urself here

We decided to put this Microsoft-provided information our undigested. Thus, enclosed is a Microsoft-made comparitive analysis. We have not alterted, added, or tinkered with the data. We have not interpreted the specs. We have pasted and cut this information from the email into our site and formatted it. Make of it what you will, but be clear we know Microsoft has clearly slanted this info, and we're not endorsing it, just printing their version. There is a difference.

As with any performance comparison, don't consider it accurate unless it was conducted by a neutral 3rd party. (and even then, be careful) I don't trust Microsoft's evaluation of the PS3 performance the same way I wouldn't trust an evaluation by Sony of the Xbox 360's performance.

[Tidus Andronicus]

LOL, those are microsoft's opinions... XD but if you actually compare the 2 systems with solid specs... and no silly graphs made by either side, The PS3 obviously is better!
That IGN article leaves a LOT out, and doesn't even mention what those features mean and how they REALLY effect games! XD
In some parts of that article, it just FLAT OUT LIES, adding and taking out specs from either system and not telling you all of where they get some of the number from. And they did a half decent job making it look convincing. lol
Example of whats happened in this artical: 3 meaning full numbers 16+16+10=42 where as only 2 of those numbers(with one left out) 16+10=26... the second seems smaller, CAUSE THEY LEFT OUT STUFF!

I'm sure we wont really know who is more powerfull, cause we can't trust Microsoft's Or Sony's words... lol the both lie about eachother to fool the consumer. XD

Microsoft seems to do this alot... although I wouldn't put it past Sony either... just don't go by their opinions, get ALL the stats, then do a real comparison. lol

STILL, PS3 has a lot of good things that are 2 times better than the 360, and the rest of it is about the same as the 360.
And from what I've seen of footage of the next gen consoles, I clearly saw better graphics detail and effects on the PS3. (course I would have liked to see more from each.)
Xbox is still impressive, just I dont think it goes far enough in power...

And maybe right now I am a Sony fanboy, but I'm also a Nintendo fanboy... AT LEAST I'm not selling my soul to the biggest evil, Microsoft. lol

I fully back Sony, when they say: "The Next Generation starts when we say it starts!" LOL Not when 360 comes out to try and steal your money with its fancy fee infested Online features. =P

[Seraf]

The 360 is the only console that has games that interest me. I pre-ordered my 360 a week ago.

[squareSOFT]

The 360 is the only console that has games that interest me. I pre-ordered my 360 a week ago.

You WHAT!!!!!!!! IMO, the thing to do is wait for about a year or so after all have been released. It's far easier to get an accurate judgement then, then it is now when half of "fact" is rumour.

[Seraf]

Well out of the near 30 or more games that I've read information about or seen that will be coming out, the 360 is the console I'm wanting for now. Just like when the PS3 comes out I'm getting it on the first day.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Earlier, I noticed Microsoft spouting about how awesome 360 is... and while saying this stuff They also said that "The 360 will also have Dead or Alive 4 EXCLUSIVELY on Xbox 360!"
Wow, if that isn't a BS statement... The Creator of DOA has said several times that he isn't sure it will be exclusive to the 360, and that other systems may turn out to be more powerful, so he may take DOA4 to those systems as well.

So I don't believe Microsoft should keep lying like that, saying that people will only be able to play these games, if they get a 360... Especially when the game's creators haven't commited yet.

And MANY games that were origninally set for exclusives, go to other systems... lol take RE4, It was set only for GC, and the box I have for it says only for GameCube, yet now its on PS2 as well.
Developers hate doing 1 system exclusives, as it doesn't allow them to touch as many people as they wanted to.

I think Microsoft even at one point said UT2007 would only be on 360, which is also a lie... LOL The UT3 Engine was also developed on PS3 and the games will also be on PS3.