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    No, it doesn't harm server space. Spam isn't bad, but it just seems that it degrades the value of some threads. If only a few people are posting so much in such little time, that leaves out other people from wanting to add something, because their post would likely be skipped from the many posts the few posters have posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    I dont see why anyone bothers, because there's boards that have spam forums, so why not just go to them for that?
    Well in that case, I don't see why anyone bothers to complain about spam, because there's boards for non-spam discussion, so why not just go to them for that?
    Quote Originally Posted by pr00t
    You fail to realize that while spam can be fun, it's also part of the reason why some threads are getting closed.
    ...huh? I always knew that threads were closed due to "spam", I just don't get why people are so uptight about it when it doesn't harm anyone. Oh, server space? Okay, here you go *clicks banner ads fervently* Problem solved.
    This board has non-spam discussion, so that doesnt make any sense. And I'm not complaining, and I dont think anyone ever bothers to complain about the spam here. I just dont see the point about worrying about those 'stuck up' folks who wont let us spam constantly, when there's boards dedicated solely to spam, not to mention, as Leeza said, the user notes which are nothing but.

    Not everyone gets joy or amusement from reading pages and pages of spam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeza
    Psy, don't you get enough of a spam fix with User Notes?
    They do go a long away, but they're not enough for this junkie to get his spammy fix.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proto
    No, it doesn't harm server space. Spam isn't bad, but it just seems that it degrades the value of some threads. If only a few people are posting so much in such little time, that leaves out other people from wanting to add something, because their post would likely be skipped from the many posts the few posters have posted.
    But alternatively you could say that some people, fed up by all of the spammy posts, would look out for on-topic posts and read them all the more eagerly.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    This board has non-spam discussion, so that doesnt make any sense. And I'm not complaining, and I dont think anyone ever bothers to complain about the spam here. I just dont see the point about worrying about those 'stuck up' folks who wont let us spam constantly, when there's boards dedicated solely to spam, not to mention, as Leeza said, the user notes which are nothing but.

    Not everyone gets joy or amusement from reading pages and pages of spam.
    This board does indeed have boards for non-spam discussion, so why is anyone against spam when there are spam-free havens elsewhere on the board? I don't have a problem with any 'stuck up' folks stopping spam, but it does irritate me that people treat them with less worth than any other types of post here. I don't have a problem with the current EoFF spam levels, however I would have a problem if there was a mass anti-spam campaign by the staff. I'm not saying that's going to happen, but from the way some people react to it...

    Correct. Not everyone gets joy or amusement from reading pages and pages of spam. But there are still an awful lot who do.
    Last edited by Psychotic; 05-14-2005 at 05:29 AM.

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    But through the spam, that would be hard to find, and if the thread holds more spam over non-spam posts, they would not even bother.

    Also, instead of posting single examples for that "Jesus H. Christ." One could have listed several examples all into one post.

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    Question!
    Psy, why do you think you're so friggen entitled? This isn't your forum, it's not for spam and it's not going to change because you find it fun. The people in charge don't like it. So it's not allowed.

    Not everyone gets joy or amusement from reading pages and pages of spam.
    Correction. No one enjoys reading it, except for the people doing it, at the exact momment they're doing it. Then they just look at the ammount of posts they made later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MecaKane
    Question!
    Psy, why do you think you're so friggen entitled? This isn't your forum, it's not for spam and it's not going to change because you find it fun. The people in charge don't like it. So it's not allowed.
    I don't think I'm entitled. I don't recall stating that I was entitled...friggen or otherwise. But I'm not the only one who finds it fun, Kane, otherwise I'd be the only one who does it but I'm not. If they want to ban all spam from here, then let them, I'm not going to say my constitutional rights are being infringed or whatever, I'll just pack up and play somewhere else. But while I'm here, I'm going to express my opinion on the forums, and my opinion on the forums is that spam is good. Whoever wishes to read my opinions can take it or leave it.
    Quote Originally Posted by MecaKane
    Correction. No one enjoys reading it, except for the people doing it, at the exact momment they're doing it. Then they just look at the ammount of posts they made later on.
    Correction. That's a generalisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic
    Quote Originally Posted by Leeza
    Psy, don't you get enough of a spam fix with User Notes?
    They do go a long away, but they're not enough for this junkie to get his spammy fix.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proto
    No, it doesn't harm server space. Spam isn't bad, but it just seems that it degrades the value of some threads. If only a few people are posting so much in such little time, that leaves out other people from wanting to add something, because their post would likely be skipped from the many posts the few posters have posted.
    But alternatively you could say that some people, fed up by all of the spammy posts, would look out for on-topic posts and read them all the more eagerly.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    This board has non-spam discussion, so that doesnt make any sense. And I'm not complaining, and I dont think anyone ever bothers to complain about the spam here. I just dont see the point about worrying about those 'stuck up' folks who wont let us spam constantly, when there's boards dedicated solely to spam, not to mention, as Leeza said, the user notes which are nothing but.

    Not everyone gets joy or amusement from reading pages and pages of spam.
    This board does indeed have boards for non-spam discussion, so why is anyone against spam when there are spam-free havens elsewhere on the board? I don't have a problem with any 'stuck up' folks stopping spam, but it does irritate me that people treat them with less worth than any other types of post here. I don't have a problem with the current EoFF spam levels, however I would have a problem if there was a mass anti-spam campaign by the staff. I'm not saying that's going to happen, but from the way some people react to it...

    Correct. Not everyone gets joy or amusement from reading pages and pages of spam. But there are still an awful lot who do.
    Because there are places elsewhere specifically for spam. A little spam in the other places is good... but that's all those places are for. A little. For fun. Pages and pages of it isnt accepted here, and it's annoying when people make threads in ANY forum on this board and that's what they turn into. I dont have a problem with the current levels either, I just dont see why running a board a certain way means the people dont know how to have fun. Different people, different fun.

    And yes, there are an awful lot. There's an awful lot of people who enjoy porn, and there's boards out there for them, right? Im not comparing spam to porn by any means. But it does get quite annoying when someone makes a thread outside EotW or EoEo and gets it spammed six ways to hell, and it ends up closed. That's when it becomes a problem, I think. When people actually want a thread answered, serious topic or not, they more than likely have to put it in EotW or EoEo to get anything aside from 10 real answers an 50 spams. Spam is fine, in moderation, as the admins have accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    Because there are places elsewhere specifically for spam. A little spam in the other places is good... but that's all those places are for. A little. For fun. Pages and pages of it isnt accepted here, and it's annoying when people make threads in ANY forum on this board and that's what they turn into. I dont have a problem with the current levels either, I just dont see why running a board a certain way means the people dont know how to have fun. Different people, different fun.

    And yes, there are an awful lot. There's an awful lot of people who enjoy porn, and there's boards out there for them, right? Im not comparing spam to porn by any means. But it does get quite annoying when someone makes a thread outside EotW or EoEo and gets it spammed six ways to hell, and it ends up closed. That's when it becomes a problem, I think. When people actually want a thread answered, serious topic or not, they more than likely have to put it in EotW or EoEo to get anything aside from 10 real answers an 50 spams. Spam is fine, in moderation, as the admins have accepted.
    I didn't say banning spam meant that people don't know how to have fun. I said that losing the art of pacing oneself was "Better than losing the art of having fun". I would rather have fun than pace myself, I was mainly speaking for myself rather than others on that occasion. I accept everyone has different ideas of what constitutes as fun, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to stand up for what I believe is fun too.

    Correct, porn cannot be compared to spam, as the staff have always been extremely anti-porn, but more moderate on the spam, and I think their approach is fair. If I was enthusiastic about porn, I'd post it at EoFF and I'd be doing what I am now: Defending it in a thread specifically about it. (Well, I wouldn't, as I'd be banned, but oh well ) Anyway, I could understand if there was a spam epidemic, and people couldn't make a thread without it being spammed...well...six ways to hell...but that isn't the case at EoFF. Even General Chat has a large number of open threads that have not been spammed beyond all repair, and as far as I am aware, that is the only forum where spam occurs...other than this one, of course. I think the "10 real answers and 50 spams" claim is a gross exaggeration. Even in General Chat, you'd be more likely to get 50 "real" answers and 10 spams rather than the other way around.

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    I can't believe you people are arguing about something so stupid.

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    Well if they're pacing themselves in regards to spam, isnt that the same thing?

    And from what I've noticed, that pretty much is the situation in GC. It may not look that way to you, but it certainly does to me, though granted we of course have different ideas of that.

    The thread that spawned this discussion is a perfect example.

    edit: We're arguing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
    I can't believe you people are arguing about something so stupid.
    I think you are a big poo.

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    I love how Psy is making tons of thoughful posts in here when he could be spamming up this thread instead. I see our feedback diversion has been successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    Well if they're pacing themselves in regards to spam, isnt that the same thing?

    And from what I've noticed, that pretty much is the situation in GC. It may not look that way to you, but it certainly does to me, though granted we of course have different ideas of that.

    The thread that spawned this discussion is a perfect example.
    No, not at all. Del seems to think that people can pace themselves and enjoy it, and hey, maybe they can, but that's just not my style.

    http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=62004

    http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=62018

    http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=61654

    http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=61996

    http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=62015

    At the time of writing, these were the first 5 non-stickied posts in GC. (I figured stickies would be unrepresentative of the average GC thread, but if you want to use them, then feel free) As far as I could tell, the vast majority of posts in these threads stuck to the original topic of discussion, be it a birthday, breakfast, birds, colours or what makes you mad.

    Yeah eest, I know. It's kind of ironic that I'm not spamming a thread about spam, really.

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    Yes, and there are plenty that ARE spammed to the point of closure (or to where they should be closed). To me, it seems like the majority. But that's just me. In my opinion, even one that's been spammed to that point is annoying, unless it's in help/feedback and the question has already been answered, in which case it's our patriotic duty to mock it/spam it to hell.

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