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    Recent media reports from Palestinian areas have emphasized some long-awaited positive developments such as democratization and financial reform within the Palestinian leadership.

    These hopeful signs have been accompanied, however, by some disturbing scenes that are receiving almost no media attention. On Monday (Mar. 21), the Palestinian Authority's largest party, Fatah, held a rally for student leaders at Hebron University. At the rally, up-and-coming Fatah leaders collectively struck the 'Heil Hitler' salute that's universally associated with Nazi Germany (photo at right).



    This salute also seems to have been recently adopted by the PA police force, as indicated by this February 10 AFP photo (photo at right):

    With momentum gaining to resume peace talks, the PA's identification with Nazi German practice Ż even in a symbolic manner Ż is cause for concern.


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    That particular salute has origins older than the Nazi Regime. It's origins lie in Rome and has links in the Middle East. Out of interest the original US Pledge of Allegiance was the Roman Salute too.

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    I don't think it's a big deal that they use similar salutes. They obviously don't share the ideologies of Hitler.

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    Well, in all truth, neither of them were particularly fond of Jews... I'm not implying that that's neccessarily the case, but that'd be the implication.

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    In regards to Jews, the Palestinian Authority does share the ideologies of Hitler. However, the salute was used in Roman times (thus Hitler's use of it--the Nazi regime was supposedly going to bring back the glories of Rome... And since their people were starving, they were trying to take everyone over by war and failing, and they were murdering Jews left and right, they were reliving Rome's 'glory days', but that's another matter....), and likewise, the swastika was simply a good-luck symbol--I've noted in an earlier thread that Buddhists in Korea often flew a flag with a swastika over their homes; it didn't have a thing to do with the Nazis, just meant that a Buddhist lived there.

    However, other pro-Nazi sentiments are very common there, and the best-seller in the region is Mein Kampf, followed fairly closely by The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a pre-Communist Russian bit of propogand produced to justify the pogroms that detailed a supposed Jewish plot to take over the world. Support of Hitler and Holocaust-denial are fairly common among palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Redneck
    In regards to Jews, the Palestinian Authority does share the ideologies of Hitler. However, the salute was used in Roman times (thus Hitler's use of it--the Nazi regime was supposedly going to bring back the glories of Rome... And since their people were starving, they were trying to take everyone over by war and failing, and they were murdering Jews left and right, they were reliving Rome's 'glory days', but that's another matter....), and likewise, the swastika was simply a good-luck symbol--I've noted in an earlier thread that Buddhists in Korea often flew a flag with a swastika over their homes; it didn't have a thing to do with the Nazis, just meant that a Buddhist lived there.

    However, other pro-Nazi sentiments are very common there, and the best-seller in the region is Mein Kampf, followed fairly closely by The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a pre-Communist Russian bit of propogand produced to justify the pogroms that detailed a supposed Jewish plot to take over the world. Support of Hitler and Holocaust-denial are fairly common among palestinians.

    I don't think Rome's glory days were filled with killing Jews. The only time Rome got after people was when they were a threat to their power.

    Anyway how a nazi salute can be mistaken for something out of Rome is really beyond me. There hasn't been a Roman doing that salute in 1000 years. It's only used as a Nazi thing, and considering the true wub that the palestinians have for jews, they are nazis in everything but name. Now I can understand that they might have been frustrated by all this time and never having a state and the illegal settlemants, but that doesn't excuse this kind of behavior.

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    Those Palistinians and thier white power salutes... when will they ever learn!?

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    Am I supposed to be laughing?

    Come on people...did you know in India there's SWASTIKAS all over everything!?!? ZOMGFG!








    Come on people...lets just...not start thinking this way (and besides, the heil was probably stolen and changed a tiny bit so hitler could call it his anyway, like the swastika). :P
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    They might share Hitler's thoughts when it comes to Jews, but there is more to nazism than hatred against Jews. The nazis weren't that fond of arabs either.

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    The Nazis hated everyone who wasn't blond-haired, blue-eyed, and Aryan. Therefore, the Arabs couldn't adopt the Natzi/White Power idealogy exactly, or at all, really. Religious fundelmentalism played no part in the Nazi movement from what I recall, when most of the problems in the middle east are the result of long-frrught religious tension.

    Also, yes, the swaztika was originally an eastern symbol for the Sun which became a Tibetian good luck sign. Its still an important symbol in Buddism, and has nothing to do with hatred of anyone. Hitler stole it and used it a symbol of his regime, so Westerners regard it as an allience to an idealogoy of hatred, but in the East it is still widely used as it was before Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaBlizzard8
    The Nazis hated everyone who wasn't blond-haired, blue-eyed, and Aryan.
    Not quite true. To be Aryan you simply had to be Germanic, Scandanavian, Anglo-Saxon, Celt, or any other Caucasian or Euro-Asian who's blood hasn't been 'mixed'. The vast majority of German's, expecially in southern Germany, Bavaria etc, were brown haired & green/blue eyed. To be 'classed' as Aryan took idiotic tests of an anality not before seen.
    They even classed Japanese as Aryan due in part to their European links, but pushed through more because of the Tripartite Pact, although Italians were classed as Racially 'inpure' thanks to the Moorish invasions.
    This Demonic organisation mainly seen 3 groups of people as major threats & where genocide happened on a major scale, Jews, Slavs & Romany Gypsies.
    Homosexuals were left alone until the German Army and a few SS men with personal grudges demanded a change, indeed a few of Hitler's first allies were open homosexuals, Ernst Roehm for example.
    Hitler's view on black people was simply that they were not Aryan. They could live in Germany, and many did, but could not join any Nazi organisation. He did not see them as a threat.
    In regards to Muslim's, 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' came into play here greatly. He met with the Grand Mufti and there was even a Muslin SS Division formed in Croatia named 'Handschar'. It was a Mountain division and mainly fought in anti-Partizan operations in Yugoslavia & then retreated to Hungary where it surrendered.



    The lines of history are never black & white, there is a mass of grey which many people overlook simply because it is easier to see the world in opposites. It's important to know & understand fully the term "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".
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