:chuckle:Originally Posted by Old Manus
proof that 360 is crap
:chuckle:
proof that 360 is crap
Last edited by DeathKnight; 05-19-2006 at 05:13 PM.
Yes, one guy's opinion on a new system that doesn't really have the creme of the crop games out yet is totally proof beyond all reasonable doubt. Lock it up and throw away the key.
All of you are acting as if youve NEVER seen the consol beofre. I mean theres been pictures EVERYHERE for the past 3 months. Oh and about the controller thing there was an aritcle ont his in the psm magazine and it said that the controllers look weird but are very confy..
O_o the controller does't look weird... cause its exactly the same as the PS2 controller... at least thats a good thing... Cause I like the PS2 controller. And I'm sure its comfortable. ^_^;All of you are acting as if youve NEVER seen the consol beofre. I mean theres been pictures EVERYHERE for the past 3 months. Oh and about the controller thing there was an aritcle ont his in the psm magazine and it said that the controllers look weird but are very confy..
But the extra's in the controller; like the extra 'xbox rippoff' button in the middle, and 'nintendo rippoff' tilt detection... are both kind of silly...XD
So yah, I just read something talking about the ps3 controller... it had a big part about the No More Rumble issue... and in interviews, it seems Sony completely denies knollege of that court case that they lost, which keeps them from using Rumble anymore. XD They claim 'rumble interfers with the tilt detection' which is complete BS, since the Nintendo Wiimote has Rumble and even more tilt and motion detection, and its not effected at all. Sony just didn't want to admit their loss... XD
Personally I think in a flying game, having rumble and tilt detection would be awesome, because every time you got shot by an enemy, the rumble (if it did effect tilt detection) could make it harder to fly. Thus being more realistic... well at least as realistic as the PS3 tilt detection gets... with its horrible lag. >_>
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They modified the game to utilize the motion detectors in a hurry, and the controller is probably still in beta too. I think we can expect less lag in the final versions.
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
PS3 is TOO CHEAP??!! O_o
Ken must be crazy... >_>
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PS3 is a bargin, people who disagree should do there homework.
PS3 is a bargain, yes, but I'm not going to buy it for all the extra features that ramp the price up. :o
Bargin, maybe... but cheap no. lol
There is a lot of stuff that raises the price up... that we just don't need.
I don't have an HDTV... I don't need one yet, I can't afford one yet... and frankly, I don't even want one yet.
Without the HD in the PS3, the price goes down... and also, BluRay becomes pointless, as the games could still fit on DVDs... which gets rid of a HUGE part of the price... BTW the 360 is currently doing HD fine on normal DVDs... so even then, I can't see the point in having BluRay... except for the fact that Sony is trying their hardest to control the next media format, by pushing out BluRay, before its time, before the market can afford it or even need it... and when cheaper alternatives are available. This is going to hurt them, but maybe they are too high on their own egos to see that.
The only reason the DVD features of the PS2 made it a good thing, was because the market was actually ready for the new format, and it was needed. People were already buying DVDs, and stores were already selling them. Plus DVD didn't have any competing format. Sony is an electronic entertainment company, so it was only logical for them to put a DVD player into the PS2. (Where as Nintendo didn't, because that feature had nothing to do with gamming back then.)
But, you see, the situation is far different with BluRay at this time... Tell me, who is selling Bluray movies already? actually... who is even making them yet?
Don't get me wrong, I like BluRay... but I wont need it for at least another 5 years... and I think the market wont need it either. Sadly, pushing it out like this, will only lead to the cheaper HD-DVD format coming out... which will kill BluRay before its time... just as Beta.
But back to my point. Sony's PS3 is NOT cheap.
Maybe in a few years, it could be considered a bargen way to get a good BluRay player... when the majority of the market is finally in need of a cheap HD movie player... But right now, Sony is trying to shove expensive features we don't need yet, down our throats... They call it future-proofing, but will the market see it that way? At $600 for a system that can only 'currently' play games (and only in SD, for most people at this time) I think people will choose cheaper alternatives.
EDIT/ADDED: Another reason Sony could very well kill off BluRay by accident, making it pointless and expensive to have in a PS3: "Lets say you're a manufacture of entertainment equipment and are choosing which player to make. The HD-DVD player is easier to build and cheaper, while the Bluray player is more expensive but has more storage and possibly better quality video. Now, when you look at your bottom line you can sell an HD-DVD player for $500-$700 but your Bluray player will have to sell around $800-$1000. Now, here comes Sony with their BluRay equipped $500-$600 PS3. You know that you'll be selling your Bluray player at a loss if you sell it for any less than $800(possibly more), and you know anyone that wants a Bluray player will just get a PS3 since it's cheaper. You also know you that while you can't compete with Bluray, you can easily compete with an HD-DVD player, because even the XBOX 360 plus HD-DVD will be in that $500-$700 competitive range your player will be in. And as a manufacture looking out for your Shareholders, what are you going to build?"
See what I mean?
I also want to add this, even if its not the best point... back 8 years ago or so, VHS was king, and people had barely mentioned DVD. But VHS had been in use for well over 10 years... more, cause I'm unsure when exactly that became a mainstream media format. Lots of people were reluctant to change to DVDs, and at this point, what makes anyone think people are ready to get rid of DVDs? the DVD format hasn't even had a full life yet... And until HDTV and which ever next gen format comes out, are prepared to drop in price dramatically, the market, and this economy, just wont want to be forced.
Last edited by Tidus Andronicus; 05-17-2006 at 06:00 AM.
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You haven't seen HD picture then.
Xbox 360 can't play high definition DVDs, it can either upscale standard DVDs, or just display them in progressive scan, which isn't as good higher resolutions.
Everything is [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] expensive when it first comes out. Am I the only one who can remember that DVD player didn't always cost $50? When you release a new technology there's still going to be a big group of people, who buy everything that's new, the people who paid a grand for DVD players that didn't even have progressive scan. Also I'm pretty sure bluray players and movies will be released sometime before november.
The market doesn't need anything, they're putting these new formats out because they need to make more sales on hardware since DVD players are so cheap now. But putting bluray into ps3s will throw it into a lot of homes, whether or not they even have HDTVs, which will put them to a great advantage, as well as being able to to display 1080p.
O_o... I have seen HD many times... and I'm not impressed... at least, not until its much much cheaper.
Its not in my character to say something like this, but i'm tired of this... it seems lately, no one is even putting any thought into my points, if it goes against what they want.
So I point back to my last post...:rolleyes2
Besides... this shouldn't be changing into a format war thread... all I wanted to show was how I feel Bluray is an unnessisary feature to FORCE on us for that horrid $600 price tag... and I explained my point thurally.
Last edited by Tidus Andronicus; 05-17-2006 at 06:01 AM.
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Blu-Ray isnt just about HD, the capacity of the Disc is alot larger than a standard DVD, up to 50GB's of data. A DVD can only hold 10GB, that is a huge difference, and Im not surprised Sony are trying to push Blu-ray forward. And its not just Sony, nearly all companies in the buisness are trying to push Blu-Ray. This constant support will keep blu-ray an on-going thing.
What Tidus said earlier though has a lot of merit. HD-DVD is already out, Blu-ray isn't yet. HD-DVD players are already around $300 less than the preorder prices of most Blu-Ray players.
From a technical standpoint, Blu-ray is definitely a superior format, and certainly has more motion picture studio support at the moment. However, there is a chance it will go the same route as Sony Beta.
I personally hope it doesn't.
Oh good god, PS3 might be £425 in the UK, and there might only be the 60GB available. Thats £100 more than the US, and £110 more than the rest of the EU. Smurfing lame, why should I have to pay more because I live in the UK, gets me so smurfing angry.
Because there's not as many people in the uk as the us so they need to make more/lose less money on the consoles to send them there.
Or they just like screwing you around because no one really cares. <3
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