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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxico
    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn Rain
    neither the N64 nor the Gamecube were what you'd call "failures". Neither was top selling, but both still did very well.
    They were pretty bad considering that before those consoles Nintendo dominated the market.
    Before those consoles, Nintendo's only real competitor was Sega, who were selling an inferior product with only a marketing-devised image of "cool" to support them.

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    BIG, and in general, more loyal than MS's and Sony's combined
    Not really, Nintendo fan base is definately smaller than the MS's and Sony's fanbase. Its safe to say that Nintendo havent made a decent console since the SNES, the N64 failed due to Cartridges, and the Gamecube failed due to people switching to other consoles after the N64. Nintendo will never become more popular than Sony, never. The GC is the weakest console in America and Australia, and the second best in Japan. More people want Xbox's or Playstations. Nintendo have been struggling in the market more than the others. Sony are keeping it safe as they know they will win. If Nintendo was a firm competitors, they wouldnt be coming up with these odd ideas.
    Problem with this is that neither the N64 nor the Gamecube were what you'd call "failures". Neither was top selling, but both still did very well.
    They werent as successful as Nintendo hoped. The reason why we are seeing this new revolution isnt because Nintendo wants to revolutionize gaming, its because they know they will fail if they came out with the same old standed console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    Quote Originally Posted by Tidus Andronicus
    BIG, and in general, more loyal than MS's and Sony's combined
    Not really, Nintendo fan base is definately smaller than the MS's and Sony's fanbase. Its safe to say that Nintendo havent made a decent console since the SNES, the N64 failed due to Cartridges, and the Gamecube failed due to people switching to other consoles after the N64. Nintendo will never become more popular than Sony, never. The GC is the weakest console in America and Australia, and the second best in Japan. More people want Xbox's or Playstations. Nintendo have been struggling in the market more than the others. Sony are keeping it safe as they know they will win. If Nintendo was a firm competitors, they wouldnt be coming up with these odd ideas.
    Problem with this is that neither the N64 nor the Gamecube were what you'd call "failures". Neither was top selling, but both still did very well.
    They werent as successful as Nintendo hoped. The reason why we are seeing this new revolution isnt because Nintendo wants to revolutionize gaming, its because they know they will fail if they came out with the same old standed console.
    Wrong. Nintendo has ALWAYS been the innovative one of the bunch.

    Nintendo=Rumble pack
    Nintendo=Wireless controller
    Nintendo=Gameboys
    Nintendo=Kongas
    Nintendo=Joystick (home systems)
    Nintendo=Stylus (DS)




    PS: Nintendo fail??? you gotta be kidding me

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    I never said they werent, but those creations havent saved Nintendo. Sony havent pulled anything absolutely amazing out of the bag, but still whoop Nintendo every day. Why?, because Sony know what Consumers want. Nintendo dont, and thus, they fail, at consoles, at life.

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    Don't listen to him, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

    Nintendo is all about games, Sony has more than just games, so comparing the two company isn't going to help you.

    Apparently, I have been declared banished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    I never said they werent, but those creations havent saved Nintendo. Sony havent pulled anything absolutely amazing out of the bag, but still whoop Nintendo every day. Why?, because Sony know what Consumers want. Nintendo dont, and thus, they fail, at consoles, at life.
    No, it's because Nintendo stood with cartridges, instead of using CDs.

    *points to DS* it's selling like gum.

    Super Smash Bros. (online) will COMPLETELY make Nintendo the #1 console.

    PS: this is all a plan by Nintendo, they've seen their mistakes with the Gamecube, back then they didn't have a strategy. Now they have a plan, and it has already begun with the DS. EVERY game they release are number one hits:

    Mario Kart DS
    Anima Crossing: Wild World
    Metroid Prime: Hunters

    NEXT: New Super Mario, Zelda, Mario 128, it'll continue 'till they're number one again. Hell the reason Nintendo hasn't been on top is because third party companies have stayed away from Nintendo's consoles, but now that Nintendo's got the MOST innovative console of the 3 they'll want to develop for Nintendo. You'll see, Nintendo's not holding back anymore.

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    Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
    People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.

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    Well, Nintendo is actually making wise decisions now by staying in a specific market niche. Instead of developing amazingly powerful impressive hardware, they are building efficient and cost-effective systems that cater to specific parts of the gaming market.

    I personally think that Nintendo would die if they went directly head to head in the overall gaming market with Sony and Microsoft. It's their specialization that is keeping them strong and afloat.

    In the mean time, while Sony and MS throw large amounts of money into their consoles, Nintendo sits back and conserves its resources while picking up many of the specialty areas of the gaming market. It's a wise choice, if you ask me and one that will keep them in business.

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    Well, it isnt working, Nintendo is losing fanbase instead of gaining it.

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    How the frick do you know? They haven't even sold anything yet. Mainstream gaming people don't check websites months in advance of a console release, they have absolutly no idea anout the revolution/wii or the new controlers.

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    How do I know? Cause this arguement has happened before in the past with the PS2 and Gamecube, and the outcome gives me the impression that its going to happen again. And at least the last Nintendo console didnt have such a stupid name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
    People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.
    You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.

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    Mr. Common Sense saves the day again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
    People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.
    You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.
    Well, in the Nintendo Controller trailer it dosent show people calmly sitting down playing. Say if you want to play a tennis game, Im sure people wont be able to just sit down and move there hand side to side slightly. In most modes of play, it all involves active movement. Im sure even moving your hand up and hand will hurt the wrist after a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz
    Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
    People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.
    You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.
    Well, in the Nintendo Controller trailer it dosent show people calmly sitting down playing. Say if you want to play a tennis game, Im sure people wont be able to just sit down and move there hand side to side slightly. In most modes of play, it all involves active movement. Im sure even moving your hand up and hand will hurt the wrist after a while.
    Using a standard controller requires extensive usage of your fingers. People seem to get over that pretty easily.

    It'd be really nice if you could contribute to this thread in a way other than blind Sony fanboyism every other post.


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