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    How are their hostile, may I ask?
    Consider Jesse Jackson blaming the Christian Coalition for the Holocaust (Literally--"The Christian Coalition was a strong force in Germany"... nevermind the fact that it was formed in 1989), but Jesse Jackson calling himself a reverend is enough offense to Christianity already. Among other liberals noting their views are Ted Turner "I had no use for organized religion", director Marshall Brickman "It's the big issue, isn't it, in the last 2,000 years, whether organized religion has really been a good thing.", actor Rupert Evertt "I think Jesus has been completely manupulated and used by organized religion", Rachel Hunter "I'm no fan of organized religion". Today host Katie Cuouric attributed the death of Janes Byrd to a climate created by Christianity. The Washington Post refers to Christians as "largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command." One liberal left his media job to found People for the American Way (imagine the uproar if a conservative named his group as representing "The American way") just to combat Christianity. The New York Times spent years trying to draw associations between Christianity and Nazis. When Jesse Ventura made his comments about "a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers," Newsweek called him "beguiling, blunt, a maverick. Time prased his "authenticity", saying "Today's political culture craves authenticity but bristles when it actually gets some." The Washington Post devoted an entire column to praising Ventura, in which he describes Christians thus: "Their views are so retrograde, their thinking so inexplicable... that it is simply asking too much to accord them the respect normally due religious leaders. Barbara Walters on 20/20 call it a "little mistake" and then asked, "Do you think that a totally honest man can be president of the United States?". The New York Times praised him for givign a "lift" to "stultifying campaign culture". Milly Ivins praised Ventura for his courage, asking "when was the last time y ou heard a politician take on the religious right?" (That's the most offensive part about it--they bash Christianity day in, day out, non-stop, and then expect us to help them pretend that they were slaying dragons...) Christianity's response? Flowers. 300 long-stemmed red roses with a card from the "churches, ministries and individual Christians of the Twin Cities who wish simply to bless you and extend to you our prayers for you to have a wonderful Christmas." New York Times columnists called Catholics offended at "The Holy Virgin Mary" (and please note which side of the aisle is supporting the virgin Mary with elephant crap smeared on her chest and "Piss Christ"...) "tone-deaf self-righteousness". I could go on for hours and hours.

    It's lberalism, not conservatives, who have a 'devil term' that essentially comes down to accusing your opponent of being a Christian.

    WEll I'm a black baptist and really most people at my church are democrats at that.When it comes to politics racial backgorund plays a big role.
    I never understood why tht was, but I'll bet that most of your family is considerably more conservative than the Democrats your supporting. (as for the Democrats being more beneficial towards the black and the Jewish community... where does that leave Al Sharpton?). But as a black baptist, how do you reconcile your party's endorsement of religion? As a black person, who oppose abortion and homosexual marriage by something like 65% and 85%, how do you accept the Democrats embrasure of both concept? How to black folks, who have similiarily high support of school vouchers, put up with the Democrats deciding that's not what they really want? And if you get the chance sometime, you ought to look the statements of Margaret Sanger regarding abortion--it's no accident that America's first abortion mill was set up in Harlem.

    I think there is some kind of neo conservative movement thats splitting the christain church further apart.
    I'll bite. How is the church being split further apart, and which "neo-conservatives" are involved?

    Yeah, because we know killing sinners and hating people for being gay or having a child born out of wedlock is what christianity is all about eh?
    Yeah--when you can't see us we're running around lynching people, and we hate everybody. but I suppose killing babies, praising sinners, hating people for being successful, being homosexual, and having kids out of wedlock is what Christianity's really about, huh? All that "Christ the Redeemer" stuff is just for us fundies.


    Equal treatment and tolerance...what? Jesus never wanted any of those things, no.
    As if liberalism has anything to do with equal treatment or tolerance?
    Last edited by The Redneck; 05-22-2005 at 05:34 PM.

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