nik0tine, you started off by saying you're a liberal "Christian", then went on to badmouth Christians, saying we're easy to control and that we hate people and hide behind the Bible. While it is not my place to question your faith, and that's not what I'm doing, you are a prime example of the people that lead people to think Christianity is not a partisan religion. If anybody truly believed the Bible--and no, I'm not talking about hiding behind it, I'm talking about believing it--they would go nowhere near modern liberalism.
eest has covered for my butt already. Read his post regarding this.

Something that I find to be offensive? Well, I did, but note that you were explicitly referring to Christians with both those comments--there was no need to "turn" it into something anti-Christian. Sorry, but it already worked--and you did the work on it.
Did I? Before you answer that question, go back and read through my statement. If you come up with an answer aside from "no" you don't understand my point.

I would hope that you can see the difference between putting convicted murderers to death and killing infants because they'd be an inconvenience. If not, don't worry--there are folks who can.
You're Christian, so that difference is irrelevant. Supporting war and supporting the death penalty directly contradict Christian values. The fact that you could support any of this and still call yourself a Christian makes you a hypocrit. You claim to believe one thing, and then support something else. It's as if you're taking a on the bible.

But He didn't talk about stealing the guy's wealth and sharing it on his behalf.
I must ask you this, why aren't you opposed to all forms of taxation? After all, it's theft, is it not?
Because conservatives don't ever touch lepers....
His point was that generally Republicans aren't out to help anybody but themselves.

Modern liberalism is antithetical to everything in the New Testament--which is why it's so hostile to it.
How so? Because they support taxation? The only anti christian things I can think of are abortion and gay marriage. It's understandable for a christian to oppose those things, but to believe that the whole of liberalism is antithetical to christianity is a joke. (Well, it's only a joke when you believe that modern conservatism relates to christianity in any way other than thier anti abortion stance)

You take money away from someone by force, spend most of it on yourself, and throw a few scraps someone else's way.... yes, He would.
I agree that welfare needs revision, but let me ask you this: What would happen to the poor if there was no welfare? They would get NO support. Nobody would help them. The reason welfare exists is because people refuse to help the poor. There is simply not enough kind hearted people out there to get the job done. Now, if the Christians would truly live a christian life, we wouldn't have that problem. But you quoted somebody who said it best. "Christianity is a crutch for the weak minded". While this certainly does not apply to all, it applies to many. The weak minded don't care about anyone but themseleves.

the point with mary magdalane was that it was her fault. but she was forgiven, redeemed and taken in. the same should be done with people that you claim deserve their poverty.
The modern christian has no room in thier hearts for 'forgiveness'.

Wierd--and it looked to me like He stopped them from killing her and told her to quit sinning.
He did, and that's what made Jesus great. However, most christians wouldn;t even bother to go even that far.

Which means, of course, that we can't ever speak about what someone else does, right?
You can, but you should first try to remedy your own hipocrasies first, which most christians don't even try to do.

3.Liberal or conservative.doesnt matter you can still be in a religion and pratice politics seperate form religion(were it should be).
But that means less power!!!! :whine:

don't be the man to cast the first stone on homosexuals or abortionists.
But... but... but how are we going to get out hatred fix?? :whine:
Which is why they can't mention it without cursing and are trying to outlaw any non-obscene mention of it. Now I understand...
Nothing you have said is true. While there have been some instances where people have gone over the line in regards to christianity, nobody is trying to put a ban on the mention of christianity. Also, the vast majority of us don't go cursing and throwing a fit when christianity is mentioned. We may, however, not agree with you one hundred percent (and have valid, logical reasons not to). I can understand that you don't like that, but maybe you are confusing that with the cursing?

Did the trick fairly well in Russia, China, Cambodia, Cuba, Vietnam...
I honestly cannot comment on China, Cambodia, Cuba, or Vietnam, but I can ASSURE you, Christianity was not abolished in Russia. Proof of that can be seen today (Where Christianity exists)

You seem to be confused here. I'm not casting stones--or throwing fake blood (like is sometimes done to wearers of fur coats), or firing bullets, or whatever else. I'm simply saying that a) we shouldn't be forced to pretend it's right, and b) murder shouldn't be legal.
There is no need to answer this, just think about it. When it comes to homosexuals, what do you feel? Just something for you to think about.

would if that nasty government stopped stealing your money wouyld you follow the bible's teachings and share it out? would all others do the same?
Allow me to answer this question for the majority of Christians in this world (And I'll do so with tremendous accuracy) No.

Politics is a method. It's the method that brought us the "War on Poverty", free needles, abortion, and a whole other host of ills--
Wait! Don't forget to include the "War on Terror" and the "War on Drugs"

First, they were not just despots, they were Communists (yes, real Communists). And liberalism is simply watered-down communism.
And conservativism is simply watered-down fascism.

Because real Christians want to see repeat-murders.
Because fake Christians thrive off of hate.

On the other hand, I don't think schools should get a dime from the government. For the government to indoctrinate our kids is bad enough, but to do it with our money is adding insult to injury.
And so how do you expect to get educated? If it wasn't for the government funding education nobody would get educated.

And where is your justification that "if I was truly a Christian" I'd advocate going light on criminals and government indoctrination for our kids?
Hahaha. So "going light on criminals" is not killing them?

Including the explosion of prosperity once everyone actually has a right to what they earn?
Please tell me you don't really believe this nonsense. Is the abscenes of schools, roads, a military, plumming systems, law enforcement, food, easily accesible drinking water as well as a load of other things an "explosion of prosperity"?

which is why I answered by noting that when they were taxed less, they gave more to charity.
But is the amount of charity even remotely proprtional to welfare?

And, of course, speaking of God's judgement is oh-so-awful, because instead He should just open up the clouds and shout "Suck the ****, lose the kingdom!"
The Bible itself says not to judge. You can believe in Gods judgement, but you shouldn't be the one passing judgement.
When the rain comes, can I say "it's raining", or would that be "judging" the weather?
Oh please... You know damn well what the Bible meant. This hardly merits a response and you know it.

Check page of this thread and you'll see a few quotes.
You might want to specify the page you are talking about.

I seriousally doubt they have the money neccesary for private schooling.
Oh but who cares about you anyway. You're poor. /republican

And anyways what I have seen and heard of public schools in my general area... well lets just say this... my school isn't the only one that out performs them. And this is, overall, a poor area. The people with money send them to the Private school. Oh yes did I forget to mention that the private schools in this area have more money then many of the public schools. Yet all I hear is carping.
Not a hundred percent sure what you are talking about, but if you mean that public schools outperfom private schools, well, you are wrong. Public schools suck major balls. In fact, it's an attrocity that public schools are in the state that they are. It's a crime against our society, in my opinion.

Rural public schools are not bad at all, and let me tell you they aren't a waste of your tax money. The problem with schooling is when you get too many pupils per teacher, and/or bad teachers.
Yes they are, and I know this from personal experiance. Public schools are bad news. The problem is not just too many students per teacher and bad teachers, everything is problematic with them. In fact, after having attended both private and public schools, I am convinced that somebody is intentionally trying to make us stupid.