You know how close I was to just spurting out a string of profanity?
Five bucks says you'd get away with it.

Come now. Without public schooling most people in my area would be uneducated... including myself. Several of my freinds have to work 8+ hours a day, plus whenever the manager/boss calls them just so that my freinds can help their parents support their family!
You do realize that public schooling requires tax money? That money doesn't just flow out of the government... well, it does, but it comes from somewhere else first. You get rid of the public schools and give the money back to the people paying it, so they can educate their children.

As for the other services. They need fixing.. not neccesarily complete removal. They are good ideas, just not utilized correctly.
And the best way to fix them--to utilize them correctly--is to let the private sector do it before the government can screw it up.

Now as for the college things... I believe that is there so that they can become productive members of society after they are released...
Because you can't be a productive member of society unless you have a college education. You can't flip burgers or work construction or something until you're done with college?

however I don't know how effective that is... who wants to hire a known felon?
Hell, we made one president.

Ah but quotes do not an entire news medium make.
So this is what they say, but it's not really what they say?

Jedi Order=Liberals
The Dark Side=Conservatives.

wellt hats my last post *prepares for the stones*
Come to the Dark Side.... I promise you great power....

You're Christian, so that difference is irrelevant.
Because Christians, apparently, aren't allowed to look at the world around them.

Supporting war and supporting the death penalty directly contradict Christian values.
Because Jesus said "thou shalt let the terrorists blow thy butt up, and toss serial murderers in jail where they can be out in a few years to murder you again."
2nd Opinions, chapter 4, verse 6

The fact that you could support any of this and still call yourself a Christian makes you a hypocrit. You claim to believe one thing, and then support something else. It's as if you're taking a on the bible.
Keep in mind--"moron" is bad. Who wants to bet you'll see nothing for "you're a hypocrite" and "you're taking a **** on the Bible"? Any takers?

I must ask you this, why aren't you opposed to all forms of taxation? After all, it's theft, is it not?
Yes, it is. However, there are some purposes which make it necessary. Therefore, it only makes sense that the purposes for which tax money is stolen should be as few and as necessary as possible.

His point was that generally Republicans aren't out to help anybody but themselves.
Which is obviously false, but if he can go around what he's saying I can to. Just because I usually abhor tact doesn't mean it ain't fun to play with sometimes.

How so? Because they support taxation?
Because their statements show their hatred of Christianity. Because liberal judges make outrageous judgements against Christianity, and liberal organizations push for more such judgements. And may I note that you are liberal and in this post alone you've made your hatred of Christianity quite evident?

agree that welfare needs revision, but let me ask you this: What would happen to the poor if there was no welfare? They would get NO support. Nobody would help them.
Because churches and charities don't actually help anybody. Hell, it sounds like you actually believe the BS you're spouting about Christianity here--can you at least give American synagogues the benefit of the doubt?

The reason welfare exists is because people refuse to help the poor.
First, the reason welfare exists is because LBJ wanted to buy some votes.
Second, if its purpose was to help the poor, why didn't it work? Welfare spending rose exponentially, and the number of poor rose. Simple common sense--if you want to see more of something, subsidize it.

He did, and that's what made Jesus great. However, most christians wouldn;t even bother to go even that far.
Because Christians approve of vigilante action--is there some Christian version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion that you've been reading and I haven't heard about yet?

You can, but you should first try to remedy your own hipocrasies first, which most christians don't even try to do.
Because protecting innocent people is hypocrisy? Is this some new definition of hypocrisy, like that "closed-minded" pulp?

Also, the vast majority of us don't go cursing and throwing a fit when christianity is mentioned.
"Well, it's only a joke when you believe that modern conservatism relates to christianity in any way other than thier anti abortion stance"
"But you quoted somebody who said it best. "Christianity is a crutch for the weak minded"."
"The modern christian has no room in thier hearts for 'forgiveness'."
"He did, and that's what made Jesus great. However, most christians wouldn;t even bother to go even that far."
"You can, but you should first try to remedy your own hipocrasies first, which most christians don't even try to do."
"Allow me to answer this question for the majority of Christians in this world (And I'll do so with tremendous accuracy) No."
No cursing allowed on these forums, but you've certainly managed to throw a fit....

I honestly cannot comment on China, Cambodia, Cuba, or Vietnam, but I can ASSURE you, Christianity was not abolished in Russia. Proof of that can be seen today (Where Christianity exists)
Now that the Communists are gone. Before then you could get shot for it.

There is no need to answer this, just think about it. When it comes to homosexuals, what do you feel? Just something for you to think about.
Sad. There are people out there with a sexual disorder who need help, and some SOB is out there telling them that instead of getting the help they need they should flaunt their problem. Hell, I care more about 'em than you do, or you'd be tryin' to help them too.

Allow me to answer this question for the majority of Christians in this world (And I'll do so with tremendous accuracy) No.
And let me note that I've already proven otherwise. Answered? Yes. Accuracy? No.

Wait! Don't forget to include the "War on Terror".
Because it would be so much kinder to just turn Muslim, start stoning our women to death, and let them murder Jews.

And conservativism is simply watered-down fascism.
You see, there's more to this 'debate' thing than making a name and labelling your opponent with it. For example--as I've already noted, but apparently you weren't paying attention--pick a tenet--any tenet--of communism. Weaken it (i.e., water it down), and you have a tenet of liberalism. Go ahead--try it!

And so how do you expect to get educated? If it wasn't for the government funding education nobody would get educated.
Because there's no such thing as private schools, religious schools, or charter schools. Please tell me you weren't being serious when you said that--because if you are we're going to have to stop debating until we both live in the same reality.

Please tell me you don't really believe this nonsense. Is the abscenes of schools, roads, a military, plumming systems, law enforcement, food, easily accesible drinking water as well as a load of other things an "explosion of prosperity"?
I've noted the necessity of roads, military, and law enforcement--although the government manages to screw those up too. The government doesn't provide food, plumbing, or drinking water, and while it provides schooling, it shouldn't--and does an abysmal job with the schooling it does provide.

But is the amount of charity even remotely proprtional to welfare?
It was enough to do the job before LBJ.

The Bible itself says not to judge. You can believe in Gods judgement, but you shouldn't be the one passing judgement.
Uh, God's already made the judgement. Wanna see the verses?

Oh please... You know damn well what the Bible meant. This hardly merits a response and you know it.
Yes, I do. And there's no clause in the Bible that says you can't note an existing condition. If you don't see the allegory inherent, that ain't my problem.

You might want to specify the page you are talking about.
You could actually look for it--but to make it easier, page 2, post #36. And that was only a small selection of them.

Mmmm...I can comment on Cuba. And as far as I know, it was never abolished.
Naw, they just throw you in prison or shoot you for it, but it's not actually abolished. *sigh* It's such a relief to know I was wrong.