Why I think this is the worst game to ever bear the name "Final Fantasy"

[boys from the dwarf]

O.k all and all it isnt such a bad game but it doesnt deserve the title "final fantasy". also there should be more characters and im not realy sexist but all girls in a normAL GAME who cares. all girs in a FF game bad idea. Because FF games alway have relation ship between the main male character and the main female character. E.G cloud and tifa or sqall and rinoa. I dint mind the girl all hard and tough and stuff becaused on FF7 i spent almost all of the game with tifa being the best character even though i was balancing out the materia evenly but my point is its to sexist all women ruling and stuff theres usually a balance in other FF games.( not that im against women being leaders and stuff) so its too unbalanced to be call an FF but as a normal game its pretty decent

[TheAbominatrix]

FF's do NOT have always have a relationship between the man guy and the man girl, or even relationships at all.

The game isnt for everyone. That doesnt mean it doesnt deserve the name Final Fantasy. It's an FF game, the end. I'm not gonna argue anyone's opinions, because everyone's entitled to their own. I enjoyed the game, frankly. And the Japanese seemed to love it, it won numerous awards in Japan.

[boys from the dwarf]

I back you up when you say everyones entitled to there own opinion. I enjoyed it too but as a final fantasy i think it sucks.

[TheAbominatrix]

"As a Final Fantasy" is a very subjective term. Have you played Final Fantasy I? It's worlds different from, say, Final Fantasy VII. Final Fantasy is always changing and growing and expanding. Tactics, Tactics Advance, Crystal Chronicles, and XI are so different from the rest of the series, yet they're still FFs. The Spirits Within and Advent Children arent even games, but they're still Final Fantasys. Because they bear the title. There really is no requirement in quality or in content to become a Final Fantasy, it's just whatever Square develops under the name.

[DMKA]

TheAbominatrix said basically everything I was about to say, in a much nicer manner than I would have said it.

I personally liked the game just fine. I had tons of fun with it, and I liked that it tried new things and it was *GASP!* full of originality! zomg what a concept!

Every FF has something different and unique about it. If you're whining now I hate to see what you're going to act like over FFXII, which won't even have the same battle style, random battles, or a separate battle screen, which have been trademarks of all the past FFs.

[boys from the dwarf]

abominatrix I have played FF1 the only one i havent played is 3. I see your point and it is a bit unfair to say it doesnt deserve the name but its probbably the worst FF game ive played. because the story sucks the only decent story is paines past life.
And i like FF1 because of the time loops andalso the story line is ever changing on so you just need to concen trate harder on it like the story of the sky people and stuff and also the lefien so it is complicated it you take it far enough. but i suppose FF2 could be the worst because its just constant war between you and the emporor. FF 10-2 is too short but the mini games are good

[TheAbominatrix]

I'm not saying I is bad by any means. I'm merely pointing out that it's very different from other games in the series, and if anything, it's the basis on which all FF games should be judged as to whether they merit the title. FF is constantly changing though, so that isnt applicable... but FFI is just as different from, say, FFVIII as X-2 is from the rest of the series.

[BlackRibon]

X-2 was a great game, but it didn't looked like an ff...
i just hope they don't make others ff games like that.

[Destai]

TheAbominatrix said basically everything I was about to say, in a much nicer manner than I would have said it.

I personally liked the game just fine. I had tons of fun with it, and I liked that it tried new things and it was *GASP!* full of originality! zomg what a concept!

Every FF has something different and unique about it. If you're whining now I hate to see what you're going to act like over FFXII, which won't even have the same battle style, random battles, or a separate battle screen, which have been trademarks of all the past FFs.

DMKA, No ones whining about Square trying something different. You'll very rarely find someone giving out about that. The problem is that most people didnt like the changes in this game while they did like the changes in other FF games. Plenty of FF games are original but the fans still want them to be relatively "FF".

[TasteyPies]

"Oh poopie"

*Spoilers ahead*

Yunas change into a free spirit was due to Rikkus unfluence trying to make her forget about all that has happened: A dead boyfriend, spending all that time thinking she had to kill herself to kill sin, all the hardships they faced. Spending so much time with Rikku, Yuna's personality started to mimmic Rikku's. This makes for more giggling, mentions of the word "poopie" and way too much giggly girl stuff than I can handle. Rikku was fine in FFX, but thats because there were like 7 charicters. We don't need 2/3 charicters with Rikku's personality. Rikku ruined the game by corrupting Yuna...I wish Yuna stayed herself.

[Cuchulainn]

With the exception to presentation & music, there wasn't THAT much difference from other FF games. A lot of the gameplay and set-up has been done before in earlier games.
If you're simply asking 'Was this one of the worst FF game you've played, in your opinion?' then my answer would be 'Yes'. Does this make it a bad game? 'No, not by any means'. It was an enjoyable game, just not the best.

Lastly, read everything TheAbominatrix says, wise & learned words.

[DMKA]

TheAbominatrix said basically everything I was about to say, in a much nicer manner than I would have said it.

I personally liked the game just fine. I had tons of fun with it, and I liked that it tried new things and it was *GASP!* full of originality! zomg what a concept!

Every FF has something different and unique about it. If you're whining now I hate to see what you're going to act like over FFXII, which won't even have the same battle style, random battles, or a separate battle screen, which have been trademarks of all the past FFs.

DMKA, No ones whining about Square trying something different. You'll very rarely find someone giving out about that. The problem is that most people didnt like the changes in this game while they did like the changes in other FF games. Plenty of FF games are original but the fans still want them to be relatively "FF".

Actually, that's all they're whining about.

[Destai]

TheAbominatrix said basically everything I was about to say, in a much nicer manner than I would have said it.

I personally liked the game just fine. I had tons of fun with it, and I liked that it tried new things and it was *GASP!* full of originality! zomg what a concept!

Every FF has something different and unique about it. If you're whining now I hate to see what you're going to act like over FFXII, which won't even have the same battle style, random battles, or a separate battle screen, which have been trademarks of all the past FFs.

DMKA, No ones whining about Square trying something different. You'll very rarely find someone giving out about that. The problem is that most people didnt like the changes in this game while they did like the changes in other FF games. Plenty of FF games are original but the fans still want them to be relatively "FF".

Actually, that's all they're whining about.

Buccura and many other people who didnt like the game explained why they didnt like it and what they didnt like about it. Maybe Im crazy for thinking this but what if the game really wasnt that good?

[rubah]

Tastey Pies is very correct when he says that Rikku is the reason that Yuna's personality has changed.

Yuna is an emotional sponge, much like myselfxD Her empathy (which causes her to soak up the attitude of the people around her) is why so many people in spira loved her so dearly when she was a summoner. She still has that, and it comes into play just about every time that you have to start a mission.

So Yuna's personality changing is very possible and even makes sense.

as for the game itself, I liked it. It gave me what I wanted after the end of ffx, and a bit more besides.

Sure some of the actions they take in there, as well as the dialog, makes me cringe from time to time, but so did ff8's graphics the first time I saw them.

If you have trouble playing it, try NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY. Think to yourself 'oh, well this game looks like it's supposed to be fun and hyper' then play it expecting it to be.. . hmm, let's say 'fun and hyper.'

It'll make it a lot easier, I'm sure.

[Del Murder]

I decided to merge these 'why this game sucks' threads into one since we only need one of these at a time.