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Thread: Laguna and Squall's Relationship (Spoilers, I think)

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    I was just wondering where everyone comes up with the idea that they're father and son. I've played through the game atleast three times now and I still don't see where people are getting that from.
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    The game almost blatantly says it. Laguna says that he has something important to say to Squall. Kiros and Ward mention how it's good that Squall doesnt look like his father, which means they know who his father is. Ellone came to the orphanage with Squall and took care of him, as he was the only family she had, even if Raine and Laguna were never blood related to her. They never come out and say it, but it does everything but.

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    ....I don't remember ANY of that, and I just got done playing it again like a week ago. o_____O
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    Here are all the things that could be used to show that Laguna is Squalls father:

    1) Laguna = Lagoon. Raine = Rain. Squall = Brief windstorm, usually with snow or rain.

    All these names are connected, they are all to do with water.

    2) Raine and Laguna had a child together. That child was sent to the orphanage

    The children in the orphanage at that time were as we all know, Squall, Seifer, Ellone, Quistis, Zell, Irvine and Selphie.

    Ellone is the adoptive sister to that newborn child, and spends a significant part of her life trying to get Laguna back to Raine and this child.

    Coincidentally, who is the one person in the orphanage who Ellone is closely attached to? Squall.

    Also notice how none of the other children are paid attention to at all when it comes to this plot question, and seeing as how it is a very relevant part of the game, you'd think Square didn't just decide to drop it completely.

    3) In the Ragnarok, Laguna tellls Squall that "Ellone has told me everything" and "We'll talk when this is all over".

    Since Ellone had just stopped her quest to get Laguna to see his newborn child, one would expect her to tell all about the child to Laguna, and it seems rather farfetched that she refused to give him the true identity.

    This would also have been basically the most important thing Ellone would tell Laguna, so it seems plausible that he is going to talk to Squall on the same issue.

    4) Talk to Kiros and Ward in the Ragnarok, and Ward will say "Good thing you don't look like your father" in a joking manner,
    Kiros says "you look more like your mother".

    Kiros and Ward know the parents, and the father well enough to make fun of him jokingly.
    Who fits into this description then?

    5) The tutorial tells us that Moombas recognize people by licking their blood.

    In jail, a Moomba calls Squall "Laguna" many times. This means Squalls blood was so similar to Lagunas that it fooled the Moomba.

    That kind of scene isn't just put in there for randomness, nor to prove that Moombas are mentally unstable.

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    Dang, you guys nailed every piece of info I can think of. Good job guys!!!*claps*
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    Nicely done!

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    Ah ok, I always wondered about the Laguna thing! It does make sense.
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    I still think the most important bit of evidence is that Laguna has Squall's card.

    Why else?

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    Why would a random man in Deling carry Irvines card?

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    Thank you for a thorough answer, Sir Bahamut.
    And btw, I didn't know that bit about Moombas and blood..
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    I thought Kiros' card was in Deling. Irvine's was in FH, which doesn't make much more sense eitherxD

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    OOOOOOOOOOOH,so they must have beeen Irvine's parents!!!!! LOL,just kidding.It is FLARINGLY obvious that Laguna is Squall's father........I'm not saying that you are dumb,DMKA,but I pretty much do the same thing myself......I'd forget.......or not know........it's ok not to know,sometimes.You just have to find a reliable source.Or it's maybe that you haven't put much thought into it,until now.

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    wait a second ........Laguna is 27, Squall is 17, Raine is around Laguna age I think. it impossible for Squall to be Laguna and Raine son because Laguna is only 10 years older than Squall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Songstress
    wait a second ........Laguna is 27, Squall is 17, Raine is around Laguna age I think. it impossible for Squall to be Laguna and Raine son because Laguna is only 10 years older than Squall.
    That's their ages in the dreamworld of the past. x)
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    The first time I played the game I didnt think it was possible because I thoght Squall and Ellone were the same age. Or that Ellone was about a year older.

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