What's acceptable?

[Agent Proto]

Alright, I've noticed that several threads were closed because of Leeza's opinion of whether they're appropriate or not.

I'll just talk about her latest closure. The "Post a picture of your crotch." Of course, it means something similar to Bleys' Crotch, which is basically the "crotch shot" of your pants. I saw that thread to have some humor potential, yet, Leeza closed it because it's "garbage" or something.

Now, it's pretty harmless fun to post pictures of your pants... yet, is it really unacceptable? Have EoFF gone too strict with the kind of threads that are acceptable?

Edit: I can agree with some of the threads getting closed, but there are also several which I find very questionable.

Anyway, what kind of threads are acceptable? Why is posting pictures of your "crotch" or pants, unacceptable? It's not hurting anything, and the thread should have stayed open. However, unless someone took the thread title seriously, and got banned posting their privates, then it could be closed, picture removed, and/or thread trashed into Garbage.

And... I said I wouldn't do anything about this to Leeza, but seeing it's sort of related, one of my threads about a dog humping a pikachu doll. Leeza PMed me to inform me that she trashed it into Garbage, because it's "garbage". However, just because it's "garbage" does it mean that it should be thrown into Garbage. From my knowledge as a former staff, isn't the Garbage's purpose to save threads from people who posted "porn" to save their IPs and whatnot?

But I digress, I know this will do nothing, but I can't believe the threads that are getting closed because it's "garbage" and "affecting" EoFF, as if it'll bring EoFF down to that level of "pure garbage".

[Leeza]

Proto, you've been on Staff long enough to know the answers to all of these questions and the reason that I'm closing them all is because the level of threads getting started in GC is getting pretty sad. If those stay open all it does is encourage more of the same.

[Agent Proto]

Yes, but the staff has changed since I have left. It's not the same staff as I knew it when I left.

[Leeza]

I'm still the same, just more so.

[Agent Proto]

I'm not suggesting the threads stay open forever. It's just that closing them early is pretty lousy. Let the thread stay open for awhile, if it gets to the line of decency, where it's almost clear that it's not going to be decent, then it could be closed. However, that's my suggestion, and I'm not going to say you should start doing so. I would like it if you did, but yeah. Not every thread you close is clearly close-worthy.

My pikachu-humping dog thread? I didn't think that was meant to be closed. I never did. I thought it was funny, and I wanted to share it. It's only a dog humping a stuffed doll. There's nothing wrong with that. It's not explicit.

[Raistlin]

Eh, this is one potentially-controversial issue I couldn't care less about. I do agree with Leeza about the poor state of GC, but I think it's better than it has been in the past.

I do, however, think a thread should be left opened or closed on its own merits - not on the state of the threads around it. Even with that, I can't argue the closing of the Post your Crotch thread. It definitely had a very high potential of getting out of line, and it's not like it was original(like the old "Scan your Hand" and "Scan your Frisbee!" threads). Plus, how amusing is it to look at several dozen pictures of the front of jeans(this would be my biggest reason for agreeing to close it)?

Still, I can see Proto's point about closing threads early. Isn't it better to close threads when they've gotten out of line, rather than merely having the potential to do so?

[Leeza]

Like the Peeing on the Electic Fence thread? You can't see it, but I have had to delete many posts from that thread because they were quite tasteless. I knew I would have to do that from the start, but I still left it open.

[Agent Proto]

Deleting questionable posts is fine, but closing threads early, unless it's actually warranted, is not.

[Psychotic]

I think it depends on which Cid's Knight finds the thread first. Leeza is probably the most conservative CK when it comes to what's acceptable and what's not, and her finding the crotch thread first meant it was doomed to closure.

I'm going to assume - and this is only an assumption - that if Yamaneko, who posted in that thread, had found the thread before Leeza did, he would have posted the Bleys picture and left the thread open. Of course, then Leeza wouldn't be able to close it as that would be undermining her staff colleague, and instead she'd probably wait for it to get spammy and then use that as an excuse to close it.

...wow, I'd be a good CK.

But anyway, I think Leeza's no nonsense approach to what is acceptable and what isn't is good, so this isn't a criticism or anything.

[Leeza]

Deleting questionable posts is fine, but closing threads early, unless it's actually warranted, is not.

That might be your opinion, but you're not on Staff here and you're not the one who has to monitor them.

EDIT: Thank you, Psy. Sometimes you surprise me.

[Raistlin]

I think when a thread's deteriorated to the point where deleting posts is necessary, the thread can definitely be closed.

[Yamaneko]

I would've closed it after I posted a picture of Bleys' crotch.

I also closed that, would you piss on an electric fence, thread. It was about as acceptable as, post your crotch, thread.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

The level of quality in General Chat is so repulsively low that we are being harder on stupid threads at the moment, and the staff has generally agreed amongst ourselves that closing them is the best way to discourage their proliferation.

[ZeZipster]

Whatever acceptable is... I'm sure I don't quite meet standards for it. Hell, they won't even let me in to see it.

[Agent Proto]

The level of quality in General Chat is so repulsively low that we are being harder on stupid threads at the moment, and the staff has generally agreed amongst ourselves that closing them is the best way to discourage their proliferation.

Thank you Kishi, at least you're able to answer my question.