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    I got it from Terence, a GameFAQs user who hacks games to get raw data. His coverage of FFVII game mechanics is unreal. The only thing I've seen him do with FFIX was get the stat formulae from hacking, and he also did a test where the ExII became available again after 12 hours had passed by letting the timer run for two and half years (under test conditions of course, on an emulator with the FPS jacked waaaay up).

    I know a lot about battle mechanics in FFIX just from doing my own tests, but any percentage based attacks and such (Stop, Thievery, Odin, etc...), I haven't found a way to test those properly. Physical attacks and magical attacks though, I know how damage is calculated for those.

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    Well, I think that at my levels (50s) I have about 5000 to 6000 HP and based on you're game mechanics, it might be because I have very high STR. I always equip my characters with the thing that adds the most STR, Zidane at lvl 52 I think, has 81 STR if I remember correctly. So yeah, game mechanics apply and you can surely get 9999 in FFIX but you need to understand the game well enough to know how.

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    4542 is the Lv.99 Hp mod. Each level has their own Hp / Mp mods. If you want to try them out, from level 50 to 60 they are...

    50: 4266 582
    51: 4294 584
    52: 4317 586
    53: 4334 587
    54: 4344 588
    55: 4353 589
    56: 4361 590
    57: 4368 591
    58: 4374 592
    59: 4379 593
    60: 4383 594

    The left are Hp Mods, the right are Mp Mods.

    I've already posted the Hp formula here, the Mp formula is...

    [(Magic * Mp Mod) / 100]

    If you decide to try these out you should un-equip the character you're checking.

    Edit because I missed something...

    There's no way your Zidane could have 80+ Strength at those levels without the use of a cheat device.
    Last edited by SoftReset; 06-02-2005 at 04:27 AM.

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    I don't use a cheat device hehe. I have Ultima Weapon, I always use Dark Matter as an accessory, I have the Green Beret on, I have other equipment that ups my STR. Everything I have on my Zidane is STR+ and I don't use any cheat things. Against Ozma, he dealt 9999 easily a few times in a row before Ozma died, the fool and really suck foe he is. But I clearly remember he has 81 STR.

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    SoftReset, can you post Eidolon's damage formula if you have it? Please o.o
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    Well, about 81 Strength in the 50's, it just doesn't happen no matter how much strength boosting equipment you use.

    Eidolon damage:

    Base = Eidolon Attack Power - the Target's Magic Defense.

    Bonus = Mag ...Mag + [(Mag + Lv) / 8]

    Damage = Base * Bonus for full animation

    Damage = [((Base * Bonus) / 3) * 2] for half animation.

    So... let's say your Ifrit has 52 attack power (42 natural + 10 from having 10 Topaz in inventory). The target has 10 magic defense, so the Base is 42.

    Now let's say Dagger is at Lv.20 with 25 magic.

    25 ...25 + [(25 + 20) / 8]

    = 25 ...30, so the Bonus will be 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, or 30, chosen at random.

    Base * Bonus = 1050, 1092, 1134, 1176, 1218, or 1260 damage with full animation, and 700, 728, 756, 784, 812, or 840 with half animation.

    ^ That's without taking elemental properties into consideration though. If the target was weak to fire the Bonus would get a 50% increase.

  7. #22

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    Yay, I think I got it o.o
    But some things I still don't know:

    1- How do you know that Ifrit's attacking power is 42? Is this pre-defined? If yes, what are they?

    2- What did you mean by "Mag ...Mag"?

    3- And, does the support ability "Concentrate" affect Eidolons?

    Thanks in advance ^^
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    1. Yes, each Eidolon has a pre-defined attack power which can be boosted by having their corresponding Jewels in inventory. The attack powers of each are:

    Atomos: 30 + Amethyst
    Ramuh: 32 + Peridot
    Shiva: 36 + Opal
    Phoenix: 40
    Ifrit: 42 + Topaz
    Fenrir: 42 + Sapphire
    ‡Fenrir: 44 + Sapphire
    Leviathan: 59 + Aquamarine
    Madeen: 71 + Eiko's level
    Bahamut: 88 + Garnet
    Ark: 106 + Lapis Lazuli
    Odin: 145 - Ore

    ‡ Only when Maiden Prayer is equipped

    So, using Ifrit again, his Base attack power is 42. His max attack power is 141, which would require 99 Topaz. You don't have to do anything with the Topaz, they just have to be in the item menu.

    2. I mean "any number from x to y"

    If x = 22 and y = 25, then x ...y is 22, 23, 24, or 25, chosen at random.

    3. Concentrate only affects curative magics. It will affect how much Hp a party member is restored with from a Phoenix summon, but not how much damage the enemy would take from Phoenix's fire element attack.

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    your knowledge of ff are truly insane SoftReset
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    Oh! So Lapis Lazuli ARE NOT useless! o_o' They actually seem very useful... they boost Ark *___*

    Thanks again, SoftReset \o/

    Just to know... every damaging skill in the game (No Mercy, Vivi's magics, Holy, Quina's damaging magic, etc) have a formula, like the Eidolons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow
    Except in FFVIII... it's far too easy in that game.
    Uh no, obtaining natural maximum statistics in FFVIII is by far one of the most boring and time consuming methods in any FF.

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    I've always wondered where people get this kind of info.
    Ultimania and Ultimania Omega are usually the main sources, however, there are some 'other' options out there.

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    "your knowledge of ff are truly insane SoftReset"

    Just FFIX, and not really. Percentage based attacks like Stop and Break, and also things like stealing, I can't even begin to figure out how those work. With attacks you can see everything that's happening so it's just a matter of working backwards from the damage you see. It's basic math, not hard if you have the patience to watch a character attack the same targets for hours at a time :/

    "Ultimania and Ultimania Omega are usually the main sources, however, there are some 'other' options out there."

    I got everything from good old-fashioned testing. My understanding is that the Ultimania guides are printed only in japanese and are next to impossible to get in North America anyway. I could be wrong though.

    "Just to know... every damaging skill in the game (No Mercy, Vivi's magics, Holy, Quina's damaging magic, etc) have a formula, like the Eidolons?"

    Everything has a formula, even things like Regen and Life. I haven't figured Regen out though, I know it's 1/16th Max Hp per Regen hit but I can't figure out what determines how many hits a character is entitled to. I know Spirit is the main factor, but not how it works within a formula.

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    How do you know them? o.o And... Are they in a site or something like that? XD That would be so cool XD
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    I worked them out myself.

    I haven't found any sites with damage formulae. A few sites have the stat formulae, most FAQs have the Thievery, Dragon's Crest, and Frog Drop formulae, but not much else. That's why I started testing things myself, I though it was wierd that FFVII had been covered so well but a game as simple (it is pretty simple mechanics-wise) as FFIX hadn't been covered at all.

    There will probably be a mechanics FAQ at GameFAQs in the not-too-distant future, since there's a guy there who's been doing what I do for a few years now. He knows a ton more than me but I don't know if or when he'll be making an FAQ about it, but he probably will at some point.

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    So, you are one of the only ones among the bilions int he world that knows those formulas. That's cool XDDDD

    Well, back to the subject o.o

    Why does Reis's Wind "Regen" status works a lot worse than Auto-Regen or the White Magic "Regen"? I mean, Reis's Wind's Regen heals about 60 HP, and Auto-Regen in the later 300s >_<
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