Why the hell does the soldiers can make magic?

[Ultima Shadow]

THAT SHAKE IT AERIS THING IS SO WRONG!

But it's still awesome.

By the way... there's a lot of monsters that are extremly sexy!

[TheSpoonyBard]

Edea, like all sorceresses, is infused with the portion of the Great Dyne...

I believe it was the Great Hyne. Dyne was a character in FFVII

Here's my attempt at a theory. *Other FF Spoilers*

I think that the governing sorceress, be it Ultimecia, Edea or Adel, bestows the military with the power to cast magic, in much the same way as Celes and Kefka were infused with MagiTeck and Cloud and the rest of SOLDIER were infused with Mako and Jenova cells. It's just the leaders' way of making their forces more powerful and advantageous in battle.

[Del Murder]

Perhaps there are a lot of smaller insignificant GFs that the soldiers use. We can't assume that the ones the pary receives are the only ones.

[The Anarchy Angel]

But it says in the beginning that only Balamb Garden uses GF's

[TheSpoonyBard]

During the rather dubious orphanage sequence it is revealed that Selphie once found a GF inside one of the monsters she defeated on a training mission and she junctioned it for a while. Does anyone know the name of this GF? It would seem that GFs can be found anywhere, so there is the possibility that a G-soldier found one and passed it round the barracks when he got home.

[thinking of names is hard]

Maybe you dont HAVE to junction a GF to use magic...I think we may be over analysing this a bit but everyone seems to be assuming the ONLY way to use magic is to have a GF...
I just know somones going to prove me wrong but...

[TheSpoonyBard]

You need to junction a GF in order to have Magic as an ability, with the exception of the sorceresses.

[TasteyPies]

Perhaps there are a lot of smaller insignificant GFs that the soldiers use. We can't assume that the ones the pary receives are the only ones.

I remember Selphie speaking of finding a GF in a cave and junctioning it before she joined SeeD or Garden. This could support the theory that GFs are more mainstream in the culture then most of us think. Hey, if a little girl playing in a cave can get a GF why can't the Galbadian military?

Edit: Damnit Forest Owl

[sayen]

i dont think that there needs to be a gf or sorcerus or hyne thingy to be involed when using magic as sefier used some magic in the operning move and the only time he gets GFs are when you can equip em to him and i dident bother as he uses fire type magic in his limt breack. my therory is that you need to draw magic from a monster to get the more powerfull stuff like meltdown but as the soldier seem to only be able to do the 4 basick spell fire,blizzard,thunder and cure that they use magic stones to invuse the magic into them and it levels up as the get more powerful as you can find and refine magic stones in the game this is a pritty plausable therioy. on and the game say selphie dosent rember the name of the GF only that she found one in a monster when at the orpanage.

[TasteyPies]

i dont think that there needs to be a gf or sorcerus or hyne thingy to be involed when using magic as sefier used some magic in the operning move and the only time he gets GFs are when you can equip em to him and i dident bother as he uses fire type magic in his limt breack. my therory is that you need to draw magic from a monster to get the more powerfull stuff like meltdown but as the soldier seem to only be able to do the 4 basick spell fire,blizzard,thunder and cure that they use magic stones to invuse the magic into them and it levels up as the get more powerful as you can find and refine magic stones in the game this is a pritty plausable therioy. on and the game say selphie dosent rember the name of the GF only that she found one in a monster when at the orpanage.

Ok, so what gives magic stones their magical abilities? Materia is explained but not these "magic stones"

[MushroomZOMBIE]

Maybe magic stones=Materia

[thinking of names is hard]

Your analysing this way too much. Maybe the square allowed soldiers to have magic because they wanted to make the game more enjoyable. Maybe they didnt notice this flaw in their script. If a theory as big as magic stones=materia is true...why didnt square put somthing as big as that in the game?

If you remmember in unalesca castle, you were allowed to use magic without gfs (or was it the other way round?)
If your going to look at this so deeply....is it possible to have a gf equipped to more than one person? If you remmember at the start of the game, Squall was the only one not to have ifrit as a gf in the garden. Does that mean that everyone else had the same gfs equipped as Squall?

[Masamune·1600]

During the rather dubious orphanage sequence it is revealed that Selphie once found a GF inside one of the monsters she defeated on a training mission and she junctioned it for a while. Does anyone know the name of this GF?

The name of Selphie's GF is never revealed. I've always liked to think that it was the uncorrupted version of Tiamat.


As to the actual question of how soldiers can use magic, it's entirely possible that technology had reached the point where para-magic could be used outside of the context of junctioning with a Guardian Force. Recall that an anti-magic field had been placed around the cell that Quistis, Selphie, and Zell shared at the D-District Prison.

Quistis: It's no use. There seems to be an anti-magic field here.

Thus, it's possible that some artificial junctioning process could have been devised. Similarly, there could simply be some form of human-GF interaction of which the player is simply not aware. Whatever the case may be, it seems likely that an explanation of some sort could be reached.

[Iceglow]

Ok wow it's been awhile since I posted on these boards but here's something (seeing as I have 3 files all over 400 hours each on FFVIII)

In the Dollet mission buildup/aftermath or the Orphanage/Trabia garden scenes theres a point where quite clearly Squall/Quistis states that, whilst SeeD are the only ones to use GFs to Junction magic there are other ways of Junctioning. Now Doc Odine in Esthar makes a machine that Junctions Ellones innate magical power to travel time well whats saying that the Gabaldians and the Estharian's use similar machines to junction magic without the problem of (1) Accquiring a GF and (2) only a few elites having access to them. Now if there were many GFs in the world then maybe that could be explained but the Soldiers of Esthar or Gabaldia never Draw magic from their enemies therefore I believe that there are many Junction machines in the world that allow the Junctioning of magic to the soldier in question.

Second thing that supports this theory is the simple fact that other than Laguna, Kiros and Ward the Gabaldian and Estharian soldiers suck and probably couldn't Draw magic in battle unless they had atleast 10 in battle and 9 of them would die.

[boys from the dwarf]

if you remember the gut in zells hometown says about the legend of hyne and his magic was released so sorceresses have large quantitys of hyne power and monsters have small amounts of his power.