ISP turning over your info to the Gov???
Republicans against privacy???
Werent they suppose to be minimizing gov. and keeping it out of our lives??? Now me i am for this i have nothing to hide, im not a terrorist, so it wont affect me. But i dont like the idea of saying less gov control, and extending its power.
Originally Posted by Mirage
Well I gotta sorta aggree that I don't really have anything much to hide, though I am sure they could dig up something. Anyways this is a bit odd.. I really like my privacy.. and whilst I am wiling to give up some to help a good cause. Well I think they blew this out of porportion.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
I'm an evil anti-american terrorist, but it's not like I care if they know it. Let them go through all the porn I look at. I hope they enjoy it.
And on a more serious note, this is the dumbest thing since carding people to board planes. Oh well...we'll be safe from those horrible Arabs once all our rights are gone...right?
I like Kung-Fu.
Come on guys grow up seriously. The reason that they card at airports it to make darn sure that no know terrorist is in a position to hijack an airplane. You know, because they've done that before once, and it kinda sucked for the people on the airplane, and the building they rammed it into at full speed. This is the same thing, they want the IP (which they can get a name and location from) for a guy that they notice is hanging around online groups that preach or support jihad and possibly looking up bomb making sites. The reasoning is pretty simple, a guy reading about jihad and bomb making is probably going to eventually plant a bomb someplace. The idea that the government might want to take reasonable steps to prevent its citizens from dying is a good thing. And at any rate if they didn't get IPs and there was an attack, you'd probably be first in line to say "why didn't you get the IPs of all those people on Al-Qaida.com?"
come oyu know the republicans proposed the patriot act.
in which a certain person here supports .WEll more the reason to hate republicans I mean erm the Dark Side.The Jedi Order must go into exile.
The thing aobut this is.Liberal or Conservative.Your privacy should never be invaded like this! What the heck kind of country is this now?WE ar egonna become like Iraq,CHina,and other countries.We liv ein dangerous times were complaing about the patriot act and speaking out against bush will land you a spot in jail.I;m jsut ognna touc the surface level of this issue and let youg uys look and dig deeper.
Actually Gnostic I would prolly look up bomb making cause it would be interesting in learning exactly how one works.. I doubt I would ever USE one.
And it goes that way for my friends. Just about the only bomb they'd make is a super stink bomb. I just don't care for invaded privacy.. I guess if I go online saying I am planing to bomb the white house, then that would be reason to keep an eye on me... but really one should not try and over presume.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
The thing is shun you shouldnt just sit there and let the gov. take over that biiiiggg of your privacy space.The whole deal here is that the white house just wants more control over the information that gets passed by through the net.
True. But preventing the death of innocents is also important. And if I knew it would have an impact I am willing to compromise.. and try and meet them halfway.
But yeah.. the internet is great due to the freedom it can grant people.[although it can also be a curse]
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
Oh man, my dad's screwed now. He loves the Jihad chat rooms. xD
This doesn't look well for Kishi. Now he won't be able to look up tentcle schoolgirl porn and he's gonna extract his vengeance on us
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Yes but the gov. will want more they always want more.HEck after the great depression when teh burracuracy was formed the gov. wanted record of our birth and death.
Information will start to be censored on the net.Would you really want that?Yeah sure a lot of poeple on the net just watch cartoons and download porn.But what about people like us people who like to research things.How would you like it when you can't get information on a current event that happened in another country.Because the USA gov. blocked it?Simply put the catching of terrorist is just what they are sayin gbut thats not really what they are gonna do.They'll catch one or two terrorist so people can have complete trust in them.But if you ask me they just wanna have more contorl of hte flow of information ont he net.
This is exactly the kind of thing America was made to PREVENT. I'm sickened to the core, but not particularily surprised.
The international intelligence community already monitors communications traffic - phones, faxes, emails, internet. It's routine, and happens all around the world.
So long as only the guilty are punished and no-one else is able to use the info for any purpose whatsoever, then I don't have that much of a problem.
However, this new proposed legislation appears to be going one step further - monitoring the interests of people, rather than targetting people who're actively attempting or consipring to do something illegal. This kind of monitoring could severely reduce people's freedom to hold and manifest an opinion or religious belief - if they're going to be targetted simply for visiting a website relating to some topical issue. It's one step below actively censoring major outlets for 'evil' religions and foreign news sources.
I'm all in favour of government intelligence agencies monitoring info in order to prevent genuine harm; but using those same techniques to single out people who merely have particular interests is going too far.
My tentacles bow to no government.This doesn't look well for Kishi. Now he won't be able to look up tentcle schoolgirl porn and he's gonna extract his vengeance on us
Doesn't really change things for me. My ISP is the government.
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