2 unreachable chests in Cleyra?

[kriminal99]

I have a question about the Cleyra tree trunk entrance, it might be obvious a little farther into the game but it bugs the hell out of me when this happens so....

In the cleyra tree trunk, right after the point where you stick your hand in the hole, and then have to go back and climb up the vines and go through a hole in this giant circular thing, the next screen has 2 treasure chests on an unreachable platform over your head. The only way it looks like you can get there is a door on the right, but there are no doors leading to it anywhere on the tree trunk. Does anyone know how to get those?

Edit: Before anyone says to check a walkthrough or something, all the walkthroughs completely ignore these chests.

[KuRt]

Go to Cleyra Settlement and refuse the oracles guidance. Watch all the ATEs that include Quina and then go to the entrance of settlements and go to the area behind the oracle. Afer that you will automatically get the chests

[boys from the dwarf]

damn! i wus guna say tat.