Crap and Rap are only a letter away

[Rye]

This forum needs more anti-rap rants.

Seriously. It's the worst form of music, if you can even call it that. Rappers are nothing more than poets, and sometimes they're not even good at that, because some don't even write their own raps and most just write crap like "Oooh, I wants to spread dat girrrrl like jelly, ooooh mofo I chill with Nelly." (That's not an actual rap line, I just thought that up, but seriously, that's what exactly what they write.)

The music to the rap is awful. The only rap artist who I can stand is Eminem, some of his raps aren't so bad as he actual talks about REAL things and not some girls' ass. Plus, the music to his songs aren't that bad. It's pathetic really, when you look at extremely popular songs like Drop It Like It's Hot by Snoop Dogg. What is the music. Tongue clicking and a computer made beat by some guy who probably gets no credit for it. And that's the crap that kids eat up, by the spoonful.

If the rap is not full of talk about being pistol whipped (Mmmmm, pistol whip...) and his 20 bitches and ho's, then it's highly religious garbage than makes me want to fall down a well. Religious rappers make me cry.

"Ooooh, who's in da house? JCs in da house! Jesus Christ is in da HOUSE! Word to your Mary!" (THAT is an actual rap song I was subjected to listen to. Except for the "Word to your Mary" part.)

Then you get shmucks like 50 Cent who are just arrogant jerks and are loved for it. Or people like Little John who got famous for carrying around a golden "crunk" cup and growling only "YEAH? WHAT?!? YEEEEAH?! AAAAALRIIIIGHT!" in random songs like Scooby Doo.

Let's list other reasons why rap sucks so bad.

[crashNUMBERS]

EDIT BY BoB: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, please talk about the topic at hand rather than the person who posted the topic.
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[Del Murder]

I think it takes a great deal of skill to be a rapper, moreso than singing. Have you ever heard someone freestyle? It's amazing.

I don't like most of the rap that hits the airwaves, but I do like eminem and some old stuff.

[MecaKane]

Seriously. It's the worst form of music, if you can even call it that. Rappers are nothing more than poets,

How's that different from ANY lead singer in a band, who doesn't happen to play an instrument?

The music to the rap is awful. The only rap artist who I can stand is Eminem, some of his raps aren't so bad as he actual talks about REAL things and not some girls' ass. Plus, the music to his songs aren't that bad.

He, like most rappers, borrow a lot of their beats from other songs. Also his new song is titled "ass like that"

If the rap is not full of talk about being pistol whipped (Mmmmm, pistol whip...) and his 20 bitches and ho's, then it's highly religious garbage than makes me want to fall down a well. Religious rappers make me cry.

Heaven forbid anyone should talk about anything other than angsty teenage crap.

Then you get shmucks like 50 Cent who are just arrogant jerks and are loved for it.

50 Cent is a whore, and the only reason anyone gave him a chance is because he's attached to Eminem, who's got to be 1000 times more arrogant than 50 Cent, he waged war on Limp Bizkit because thier turntables guy said that while eminem was <i>a better rapper than Everlast,</i> Everlast would probably whoop him in a fight. Oh and also 50 cent got shot a bunch of times, to go back to his topic.

Yes, there are talentless whores, namly eminem and 50cent, becoming popular for no reason but that doesn't mean the rest of it is <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">. I don't hate punk music because of losers like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan, or the recent trend of only whiney bitch songs getting any play. Why should it be any different for rap?

Also, I thought Crash made this thread, at first, so I thought of saying "Crash is one letter away from Trash." but now I can't.

[crashNUMBERS]

Just so you know not all raps are about girls asses. I can name a load if you want me to...

[Rye]

I think it takes a great deal of skill to be a rapper, moreso than singing. Have you ever heard someone freestyle? It's amazing.

I don't like most of the rap that hits the airwaves, but I do like eminem and some old stuff.

That's where I get the poetry part from. I think singing is harder, but it is pretty hard to come up with good stuff really fast, it's like fast paced poetry and I can respect people who can do that. I'm talking more about mainstream rap, the type you hear on the radio.

[krissy]

Let's list other reasons why rap sucks so bad.

there are artists within the genre that make it seem like it is an abomination

the same can be said for rock, alternative, folk, country, electronica, video game music, and soft pop

rye, if your favorite rapper is eminem then you have only been subjected to crap rap. i can agree that he has lyrical skill but there is better (c)rap out there. i have to agree with you how kids eat up dumb crap. but same with other genres. whoever thought smiple plan would be a good idea had something up their arse at the time.

it's become so commercialized that you can say some rap can be clasified under hip pop (get it? pop? hop? yeaaah!), but it also happens in other genres.

i really don't think rap is bad as a music genre, but the style of what currently is pop rap is bad. it's definitely not the worst genre out there.
trust me, because i have waded knee deep through noise, and <i> noise </i> is an actual genre, which i think some people would really dislike but it became an experiment in ambience to me. digressing, tho, you're entitled to your opinion, and i am to mine.


PRE-edit: ok apparently i can't type fast enough. if you're just talkin about pop rap then i can't find anything nice in there either.

[escobert]

Seriously. It's the worst form of music, if you can even call it that. Rappers are nothing more than poets,

How's that different from ANY lead singer in a band, who doesn't happen to play an instrument?

The music to the rap is awful. The only rap artist who I can stand is Eminem, some of his raps aren't so bad as he actual talks about REAL things and not some girls' ass. Plus, the music to his songs aren't that bad.

He, like most rappers, borrow a lot of their beats from other songs. Also his new song is titled "ass like that"

If the rap is not full of talk about being pistol whipped (Mmmmm, pistol whip...) and his 20 bitches and ho's, then it's highly religious garbage than makes me want to fall down a well. Religious rappers make me cry.

Heaven forbid anyone should talk about anything other than angsty teenage crap.

Then you get shmucks like 50 Cent who are just arrogant jerks and are loved for it.

50 Cent is a whore, and the only reason anyone gave him a chance is because he's attached to Eminem, who's got to be 1000 times more arrogant than 50 Cent, he waged war on Limp Bizkit because thier turntables guy said that while eminem was <i>a better rapper than Everlast,</i> Everlast would probably whoop him in a fight. Oh and also 50 cent got shot a bunch of times, to go back to his topic.

Yes, there are talentless whores, namly eminem and 50cent, becoming popular for no reason but that doesn't mean the rest of it is <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">. I don't hate punk music because of losers like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan, or the recent trend of only whiney bitch songs getting any play. Why should it be any different for rap?

Also, I thought Crash made this thread, at first, so I thought of saying "Crash is one letter away from Trash." but now I can't.

My god.... I agree with Kane

[Del Murder]

That's where I get the poetry part from. I think singing is harder, but it is pretty hard to come up with good stuff really fast, it's like fast paced poetry and I can respect people who can do that. I'm talking more about mainstream rap, the type you hear on the radio.

Oh ok, I only listen to the classic rock station.

[eestlinc]

it's not rap that sucks, it's pop culture.

[Yamaneko]

Crock and Rock are only a letter away too!

[Shoeberto]

Yeah, there's a big issue of broad, sweeping generalization in the premise of this thread. I'll admit, the deepest I've gone into underground rappers is MC Chris, and MC does talk about those things on occasion, but his nerdcore homages make up for it in almost all of his songs. If you want to target specific rappers, go ahead, but don't go straight to one genre. It'd be like saying that I hate all rock and roll because I think Evanescance sucks.

[Hroth]

Yeah ok whatever. Rappers being poets is good, the one thing is that they're bad poets. They don't do poetry that is meaningful or that has any type of emotion. They make gun and fun rhyme and call it gangsta. I'm sorry but poetry is not about that <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">. What happened to real rap? In Tupac's time it was street poetry, the real thing, all it is now is an easy way to make money, case and point: Chingy, Nelly and all those other idiots. I'm sorry but Balla Baby isn't poetry, neither is saying Hurr instead of here. It's just plain redneck slang. Rap is worthless, it has nothing musical in it and shouldn't be listened to by anyone. Unfortunately, that is the trend right now, so everyone listens to it and until it won't be a trend anymore, only a few people will listen to it. We gotta live with rap as we have to live with Simple Plan and The Cure and all those other bands that sound the same and that talk about how their life sucked 15 YEARS AGO! Who prey on youth's problems in order to make money, WHO PUT OUT <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">TY MUSIC THAT HAS NOTHING MUSICAL OR RELEVANT AND USE OUR YOUTH! Down with bad music, down with things that pass as music. Music is a beautiful form of art, not a toy, not a passtime, not a career. Music is an experience. You have to understand music in order to make meaningful or even to make ACTUAL music. I like rock, it doesn't mean I like everyone in rock, it doesn't mean I approve of all artists and their theology. I like classical music, doesn't mean I like it all either. It mostly depends on the musician, and I clearly say musician because people who are singers sing, they don't make music, they sing. Somewhat contradictory you might think but completely relevant and clear in my mind. If you want to listen to MUSIC, listen to bands like Tool, A Perfect Circle and the most popular one Evanescence. As stupid as you might think Evanescence is, you are totally wrong. Emotion is the key in Evanescence, Amy Lee is an incredible musician, the music actually means something. Nirvana is good also, the Tea Party aren't bad. They're all bands that knew the meaning of music. Get to know the meaning too you guys.

[Cuchulainn]

If you don't like hip hop, don't effing in listen to it. You don't need to go on some preteen rant about it in a thread. I don't like a lot of non-life affecting things but unless someone mentions it I don't start a thread about it. Real hip hop is arguably the rawest & most honest expression you are ever likely to hear in a musical genre. If you can't get your head around the chart aimed pop aspect or just can't get over the fact it isn't talentless-but-catchy-feel-good pop sh*t, I reiterate, Don't listen to it. Tnhere are times when you should voice your distaste in things, important things, but there are times when you can & should just move on.

[escobert]

Well maybe I find Nas to be real music where as I find A Perfect Circle and Tool crap. So what if I like rap? If you don't like it don't listen to it.