Crap and Rap are only a letter away

[Necronopticous]

Rye, I feel pretty much the same way as you about the sample of Rap and Hip Hop music you seem to be familiar with. I personally think you would have a different opinion of the genres as a whole if you heard some artists that are making music for the sake of music rather than big rims on their cars and doing hoes doggystyle. My suggestions would be to listen to Prefuse 73 and perhaps Blackalicious. If you stay open minded I honestly think you might change your opinion; not on popular rap however, which is very much crap in my opinion as well.

[Shlup]

I like rap that's about something interesting. Like Boba Fett.

Where I live there's an equal ratio of black and whites, and rap is a pretty common thing to hear when walking around campus. Several times a day someone drives by my apartment with the bass up loud enough to shake the pictures on my wall. That's what bugs me about rap more than anyone else, the idea that it ain't good it it ain't loud enough to hurt somebody!

Damn kids.

[Erdrick Holmes]

Yeah, rap does suck. All it is is some dude on a mic going "bling bling kill people, bitch ho blunt bling"

[Kirobaito]

I'm quite happy to agree with every word you just typed, Rye.

[Agent Proto]

I don't agree with it.

Anyway, while you may not consider rap music, it is, such like Country, rythm and blues, rock and roll, and pop is.

Here is the definition of music according to dictionary.com

mu·sic Audio pronunciation of "music" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (myzk)
n.

1. The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.

Believe it or not, rap is a composition of spoken words that often have some rhythm and harmony. If you listen closely to some rap, you'll hear that the words spoken do have some rhythm going on.

Here's the rest of the definition of music

2. Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm.
3.
1. A musical composition.
2. The written or printed score for such a composition.
3. Such scores considered as a group: We keep our music in a stack near the piano.
4. A musical accompaniment.
5. A particular category or kind of music.
6. An aesthetically pleasing or harmonious sound or combination of sounds: the music of the wind in the pine

So, yes, rap is considered music, it's just different from other genres of music. What makes rap different and unique is that the rapper uses the beats of the music, whether it is instrumental or some other form, to make a rhythm of sort with the words.

Also, I will agree that most mainstream rappers are crap, but rap music is rather brilliant. As some would say, hate the players, not the game.

Also, I may not like genre of country music, but I do appreciate it, because it's different from other genres of music. I will listen to country, but it's not my prefered choice of music I would immediately want to listen.

[Erdrick Holmes]

Of course... don't ever call it "crap music". That's the only joke moms ever have, and they can pretty much keep it for all I care.

[tomamar04]

Rap can't be crap. Think about it, rap sells millions of records, so that must mean millions of people like it. They can't all be wrong.

[Shlup]

They are all wrong.

[*ETERNAL FANTASY*]

Yeah, rap does suck. All it is is some dude on a mic going "bling bling kill people, bitch ho blunt bling"

Your quick to generalise, yeah theres songs and people that are like that but direct that to SPECIFIC people not the whole genre in general! Listen to ols-school stuff or just tune out...

And NO Rye theres too much bashing of rap music in this forum, Even Dingo..(something? sorry mate!) made a thread about rap bashing seriously, Opinion appreciated but there is nothing more annoying someone trying to get attention and using "im voicing my opinion" card, if you dont like it listen what everyone said and dont listen to it, it cant be any simpler! Sorry to go out on you but its to the point where i hear all this and im thinkin "i get it already, you dont like it, can we all get over it now!?"

Besides i dont really listen to rap thats all about hoes and bling bling, Thinking selfishly now if i cant really relate or connect to it n all i dont really listen to it much lol! I mean thats what music is partly all about right?, finding something that express or that u can relate to you, I find rap easy to relate to so its kinda hard to read all the stuff u wrote if u think it all comes down to what u say it is....

ok im done rambling lol

[Dreddz]

You dont have to rant about not liking rap
Both Rock and Rap are different types of music and its personal taste
I think Rock is a load of noise with no talent at all
While Rap takes skill
And if people refer rap to eminem or Ja Rule then I can understand the hate for it as those lot are crap !

[Rye]

before i make any argument, i would like to kno what Rye's personal favorite music genre and/or band/artist are. and also why they're so much better than rap/hip hop

I have many favourites. All of my favourites fall under rock or alternative. I also like pop a lot too, but only talented singers of the pop category, or the type who may not be awesome singers but can play the guitar/piano and write their own lyrics and music like Vanessa Carlton. I like classic music too. And my favourite bands/artists are Evanescence, System of a Down, A Perfect Circle, Tori Amos, Christina Aguilera, Nightwish, Franz Ferdinand, The Killers, My Chemical Romance, etc. I know I'm going to be a lot of new band comments on this, but all of those bands/artists have things I think are important, like good singers, as I find good singers to be extremely respectful as I want to do something with singing one day. They write their own music. And I think their music is beautiful and inspiring. I don't think rock is just a big bunch of noise at all, unless you listen to those bands who are on Uranium on Fuse who basically just do death metal screams.

And like people said, it's not like I have a choice not to listen to it. It's shoved in my face. For someone who likes music as much as I do, it's painful to turn on the radio and find nothing because EVERY station has it on it.

Even on Fuse, which is supposedly a very rock TV channel with just rock videos, 50 Cent creeps into. So I can't escape it.

And sorry to have offended you Crash, I was just expressing my opinion. I wasn't lashing out at rap fans, more at the people who make rap. And I don't consider this thread whining either.

[Loony BoB]

OOC:

Can everyone keep in mind that this topic is not about "rap", not "Rye's opinion of rap". So feel free to debate stuff, but keep in mind that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't go around insulting people because their tastes are different to mine. Some people don't like seafood because their taste buds just happen to not appreciate it - same goes for your mind and music. Some people like some music, some people don't. Don't knock people because they have an opinion. *edits/deletes a few posts at the start of the thread*

I like some rap. Eminem and Fresh Prince are two rap artists I quite enjoy, but there aren't many overall. Oh, The Streets. Mwahaha.

Rap is in all kinds of music these days, too. Pop music is full of it. TLC, for example, have a lot of raps in their music. Nobody complains about them (at least not that I know of). It's the music itself that bores me. Rap music in general tends to be very dull, and the voices of a lot of rap artists these days are lacking emotion and are just basically... blurting out lyrics. Eminem and Fresh Prince appeal to me because they actually use their voices. You can't say the same for people like 50 Cent, so I don't really like them. Boring crap in my opinion. But hey, if that's your bag, so be it.

[Jack]

I will agree to one thing and that is that Rap and "RnB" on the radio is piss-poor. And that many radio stations are drowned in the stuff. The loose interpretation of RnB makes me upset because anything by a black artist is now RnB. Anything invloving a rap is RnB. Hell, even Joss Stone is RnB now. And the image is shocking, with the glamourised bling bling and booties and pimps and hos.
However, that's comercialised Rap and while I appreciate the ability to Rap is A SKILL, I don't like it necessarilly.

[crashNUMBERS]

One question. Why start a topic on "I hate rap"?? Yes you are entitled to your oppinion but there are fans out there. And Bert, Not only is that a great song its one proof that all rappers dont rap about girls asses. The only rappers I really know that do that a lot are lil john, the east side boys, and the yin yang twins...

[Zeldy]

You cant spell Crap without Rap.
But this topic is just asking for arguements =S