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    LOOK HOW CLEVER AND CORRECT I AM: Seriously, anyone who says *random music genre* sucks is being really stupid. There is no law of music and there will never be a music genre that appeals to everyone. (Well unless we make contact with some highly advanced aliens who have these special sonars which work like drugs because humans find them pleasnat and theyed have laser guns and theyd all have evangelions and omg yes....) I always thought I hated Eminem but I really enjoy the lyrics to his serious songs which are entertaining to read and the catchy beat is just like a bonus to me. other artists will focus on the beat whie Eminem is more concerned with passing his message along but to each his own. Rapping is an amazing talent and free styling shows alot of intelligence(well wit and quick thinking) if you ask me

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    I don't like rap much at all. I think the main reason why is because nowadays on TV and radio, you hear all these rap songs that deal with the same issues of "ghetto life" and a bunch of other sexual topics I don't feel like discussing here. It seems that the basic message of mainstream rap is "dress like us, talk like us, act like us.' I find that to be INCREDIBLY annoying.

    I see a lot of people nowadys in my school and neighborhood who try to act like people like 50 Cent. I find that shameful. Why would you want to be a fugitive outlaw who shoots people and lives a hard life in the ghetto? Is that really somehing to aspire for?

    Sure, I hear everybody here when they say that rap is an art form. I agree, to an extent. It all really depends on who your talking about. Really it's all divided into 2 categories: good rap, and bad rap. I guess the same could be said about all music types. The only thing is, nowadys rap is more popular than ever, and it doesn't show any signs of slowing down. I mean, just look at fast-food joint commercials. I see rap influenced ads EVERYWHERE on TV. It's funny too because McDonalds used to be all about happy things like family and love, and now it's all about rap and hanging out with my homz. I just wish if they were going to promote rap in such a way, that it at least be the good rap and not this other crap.

    I can respect those who freestyle though, because that does take a lot of skill. Hell, i know i could never do that. But, these people who have months to write lyrics and come out with an edn product of "Yeah, uh huh, that's right' lyrics, don't seem to be really showing their true potential. Just look at P Diddy. He took "Every breath You Take" by The Police and redid the exact same song except with a couple "Uh huhs" and "Oh yeahs" over the melody. That's not original.

    So it's not that I don't like rap, it's just that I don't like all the same kinds of rap shoved in my face over and over again. I even have to listen to it on my bus, which is why I whip out my CD player and try to zone it out. But it's sad that though when I'm trying to sleep at 11:00 at night and some guy comes rolling down my street with his bass cranked up listening to music. I mean, is it that hard to turn it down?

    I like those rappers who try to be unique (like Eminem, Nes, and Ludacris) and I know that a lot of rock bands sound exactly the same (Green Day, Good Charlotte, Switchfoot), I guess people just need to not worry about that and just continue listening to their own types of music, no matter how much it is continually pushed in our face. It seems nowadays people are just following whatever everyone else says is good, and not looking for what actually is. I guess it's always gonna be that way though, so there's really no use bitching about it. I may not like it, but I'm not gonna start a mass-rebellion. Even if I wanted to, I'd probably get my ass whooped.

    I do hope that one day people will sit back and ask themselves "Do i really wanna be like this? A person who aspires to be a lawbreaker? Is that my future?" and realize that that is not the way to go, no matter how long that may take. Props though to all those people who know that they don't want to be like that. That they want to be succesful, because really, don't we all?

    Sorry for posting this long-ass reply. Just wanted to share my opinion.

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    I'm glad someone is as smart as I am here :P. I didn't read all of your post 'cause i'm not in much of a reading mood but I read the first paragraph and loved it. I saw your picture too, Donnie Darko? Quite nice! Really, people who think rap is "the <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">" read what he said and THINK ABOUT IT. Because seriously, thinking is the best thing anyone can do at all times! Give it all a try!

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    hmmm. well u mentioned of what i like to call girly rock, lol. which is nothing wrong about it. a lotta people criticize christina, the

    instead of arguing about it, just change the station. its not on EVERY station. if u really fell that rap is that bad, and ur TRAPPED and being FORCED to listen to it, then i feel that ur exaggerating.

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    The groupies/ho'z principle is the same with both genres: (rock and rap)
    quantity over quality

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    Rap died with Tupac.

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    Anything anyone else listens to is bad music, if they like something I don't, they must have bad taste, heaven forbid anybody else enjoy a genre of music that I dislike.

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    So how much difference is there, really, between acts like Ludacris and Rage Against the Machine?

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    Rap... hmmm. To me it's just like talking with a beat in the background. & I've never heard a freestyle rap that has been good. The only rapper that I see as good is Busta Rhymes.

    I think that rap should be done fast, otherwise it just sounds rubbish. Busta Rhymes can rap fast, that is why I think he is good. But I don't love him, just think that he is worthy of talent in rap sense.

    Rap lyrics are always the same - Some rubbish about guns, gangs, drugs, 'whores', & the like. To be honest, it's just banter.

    So how much difference is there, really, between acts like Ludacris and Rage Against the Machine?
    Well for a start it depends on what you mean. Are you on about the lyrical difference?

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    I can definitely see where your coming from, but a lot of uncommercial rappers talk about a lot more than just girls, booties and dope and partying in a nightclub, and its not just eminem who does that, i can name loads of rap bands/rappers:
    Ugly duckling
    Pharcyde
    busta rhymes (freestyle)
    Eminem (yes)
    Outkast (their albums inbetween the old and new ones, after they were too young, before they became corrupt)
    Blackalicious (this guy isnt about anything meaningfull, but he doesnt rap about girls and asses he just focuses more on the sounds of his rapping rather than the meaning behind it, but hes pretty damn witty)
    Nas (even though mostly shallow including in all his released singles, has some good lyrics)
    De la soul (yet again, before they became corrupt)
    oh and how could i forget him!!!!!!! MOS DEF (his Umi Says song is pretty much freestyle, and instead of being witty, as what freestyle is mostly supposed to be, this guy is meaningful, almost spiritual)

    i do see where Rye is coming from in his initial post though, but with only the commercial rap making it through to non-rap fans, theres bound to be views similar to that yours.

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    If you break down rap lyrics they look like poetry- bad poetry

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    most of the modern rap is complete balls, however some of the older, early 90's stuff is some of the best music ever made, perhaps even some of the rap rock is decent... nah!

    not to say I don't like rock (I have SOAD tickets and you dont.)
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    Everyone seem's to be judging the whole rap genre on the mainstream stuff. Yeah, I don't like people shouting about titties and guns and being "gangsta" either, but just because that's what people buy and therefore is what's shoved down our ears by record labels wanting money doesn't mean the whole genre sucks. Music is all about what sounds good in your ear. Mainstream gangsta rap doesn't. There are lots of good rappers groups about who make good songs, Jurassic 5 stick out in my mind. Concrete Schoolyard and Hey are awesome songs. Old school stuff is brilliant, De La Soul were awesome. Hip Hop and Rap can and have been used in positive ways to bring issues forward from people who were brought up in bad places and lived through bad situations, and it's also a fine way for people to make music that's upbeat and fast and funky and good to dance to, if you like that sort of thing. I'm not particularly a huge rap fan myself, but I can see why people like it and why people make it. Unfortunately, good rappers are being lumped together with bad music, which isn't really their fault, seeing as most rap music aimed at skinny teenagers who think they're hard and that disrespecting women and shooting people is cool, because they buy it and it makes money. I saw someone mention Evanescance earlier, thats exactly the same thing, terrible whiney music marketed purely at angsty teenagers. People see it and if they don't like rock music already automatically lump all rock bands into the same catagory, which isn't fair. But if you don't like it, there is always the mute button. No need to get worked up over these things.

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    *agrees entirely with Kyono*
    You said everything i wanted to say but didnt bother
    Yeah Jurassic 5 is one band i forgot about.

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    In my life time I have heard rap songs written about/containing the following subjects:

    1) baking cakes (written by the Wu Tang, no less)
    2) making a woman *censored* out of her *censored* while she *censored* (there are children around, you know)
    3) the lyric "Banana fanna 'fo fanna; that's 'fo sho!"

    Do I really need to say anymore?
    No.

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    rap is crap, pathetic, boring, usless and........did i mention crap?
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