Excalibur 2 and Ultima Weapon...where?

[sacred_warrior_vincent]

I have to ask this because its eating me up inside: where can i find Zidanes Ultima Weapon and Steiners Excalibur 2? everytime i play it i can never get zidane above the Oric...thing...and steiner above the Defender. (i've bought the guide and now know how, so started a new game) but i still want those 2 weapons.
any help would be appreciated.

to get zidanes ultima weapon you have to use a dead pepper at shimmering island(after kuja destroys it)and you will find a tresure box underwater with the ultima weapon and a couple other things to get excalibur 2 you have to beat lich in memoria within 12 hours of the game and it is somewhere in that room