Black Metal Ist Krieg!

[Crushed Hope]

As a large fan of black metal I felt,"What better way to start my posting of threads off than with a black metal thread."

Now I know what many people think when black metal is mentioned, and it is usually one of four things.

1. I love Living Color. (This amuzes me due to the fact that LC are not even metal)

2. Cradle of filth are amazing, Dani is hawt! (No...Cradle of Filth are not, and never have been black metal. Say it with me, NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN BLACK METAL)

3. You Satanist. (Yes, yes I am the biggest Satanist you will ever meet.(SPOILER)Until you learn that I find Satanism to be a mostly rediculous concept, except when followed by those who have the heart and soul to do so properly

4. Black Metal Ist Krieg! ( This is when I salute my fellow black metal enthusiast.)

Now, here is where I get to talking about the music ^^, by giving a defintion of black metal.

An extreme evolution of thrash about pushing metal to its audible and lyrical extremes. Guitars are fast and abrasive, often quite minimilistic, and often tremolo picked. Drums are usually fast double bass sections or fast blast beats, usually accompanied by a ride or hi-hat. Vocals are shrieked in a shrill high-pitched tone, and production is often very rough to enhance the atmosphere and abrasiveness of the music. Mayhem, Darkthrone, Gorgorth, Burzum and Kreig are all excellent examples of Pure Black Metal. Some BM bands try to incorporate synths and more electronic atmospherics into their music, these bands are often called "Goth Metal" by BM fans although this is inaccurate, the term "Symphonic Black Metal" is a lot closer to the truth.

There, just to clear things up.

Now onto the bands I like.

Ancient Wisdom
Drudkh
Darkthrone
Deathspell Omega
Hirilorn
Grand Alchemist
Grand Belial's Key
Woods of Ypres
Summoning
Keep of Kalessin
Bathory
Vesperian Sorrow
Nokturnal Mortum
Enslavement of Beauty
Diabolical Masquerade
Emperor
Immortal

So what all do you people think of black metal, which kinds do you prefer, what are your favorite bands, which of the four generalizations are you about it?

[Big D]

4. Black Metal Ist Krieg!

"Black metal is war"?

Welcome to the forums

I'm not a huge metal fan, but I enjoy a little out of every musical genre.

[jrgen]

I'm not that big a fan of pure black metal. It's often good music, but I like the tweaked forms of the genre more. My absolute favorite black metal band is without a doubt Dornenreich. Their album Her von welken Nächten is genious. Bitter ist's dem Tod zu dienen is great too, but I'm not even sure it could be classified as black metal. Check them out if you want black metal with violins, cellos, acoustic guitars and really unusual vocals.

[Chris]

Jeez... another metal thread.

[Devourment]

As a large fan of black metal I felt,"What better way to start my posting of threads off than with a black metal thread."

Now I know what many people think when black metal is mentioned, and it is usually one of four things.

1. I love Living Color. (This amuzes me due to the fact that LC are not even metal)

2. Cradle of filth are amazing, Dani is hawt! (No...Cradle of Filth are not, and never have been black metal. Say it with me, NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN BLACK METAL)

3. You Satanist. (Yes, yes I am the biggest Satanist you will ever meet.(SPOILER)Until you learn that I find Satanism to be a mostly rediculous concept, except when followed by those who have the heart and soul to do so properly

4. Black Metal Ist Krieg! ( This is when I salute my fellow black metal enthusiast.)

Now, here is where I get to talking about the music ^^, by giving a defintion of black metal.

An extreme evolution of thrash about pushing metal to its audible and lyrical extremes. Guitars are fast and abrasive, often quite minimilistic, and often tremolo picked. Drums are usually fast double bass sections or fast blast beats, usually accompanied by a ride or hi-hat. Vocals are shrieked in a shrill high-pitched tone, and production is often very rough to enhance the atmosphere and abrasiveness of the music. Mayhem, Darkthrone, Gorgorth, Burzum and Kreig are all excellent examples of Pure Black Metal. Some BM bands try to incorporate synths and more electronic atmospherics into their music, these bands are often called "Goth Metal" by BM fans although this is inaccurate, the term "Symphonic Black Metal" is a lot closer to the truth.

There, just to clear things up.

Now onto the bands I like.

Ancient Wisdom
Drudkh
Darkthrone
Deathspell Omega
Hirilorn
Grand Alchemist
Grand Belial's Key
Woods of Ypres
Summoning
Keep of Kalessin
Bathory
Vesperian Sorrow
Nokturnal Mortum
Enslavement of Beauty
Diabolical Masquerade
Emperor
Immortal

So what all do you people think of black metal, which kinds do you prefer, what are your favorite bands, which of the four generalizations are you about it?

So where would Dimmu Borgir come under all this then?

Symphonic Black Metal?

[Zeldy]

Im huge fan of Cradle of filth whatever music they are.. and i like nightwish too

[Angel_from_hell]

Love Cradle of Filth!

[Zeldy]

I have the Nymphetamine album on my computer, it rocks!
i like Nemessis, Gilded C*nt, Filthy little secerets, Nymphetamine and i like Babylon AD which isnt on it though.

[Pure Strife]

I wonder how much could annoy the threadstarter by saying my favourite black metal band is Children Of Bodom....

I don't like black metal. It's like thrash but over done. Thrash, when done right, is absolutely wonderful, black metal is like someone left thrash in the over too long and a bunch of idiots who hate the fact their parents made them go to church decide to sprinkle on whatever beliefs they think are cool and butcher an awesome genre. Even Death Metal, when done right, can make some awesomely melodic and listenable material. Black metal is just people trying to hard to look cool, be different, and play their instruments. At least from what I've heard

[Chzn8r]

I like a good bit of death metal, melodic death metal, and just music in general with prominent usage of death vocals, but I pretty much hate black metal. The whole "raw, in your face, want to kill you" isn't my thing. Definitely don't like the lyrical content either.

[Crushed Hope]

I wonder how much could annoy the threadstarter by saying my favourite black metal band is Children Of Bodom....

Quite alot seeing as they are Power Metal.

Anyways, alot of you are complaining about the production of the music, and well... I suppose it is the fact that you will rarly get Power metal calibur production but there is some that is not kvlt n3kr0 fisher price tape recorder bad.

Alot of the stuff that I listen to is quite good quality, as I am not a huge fan of the bad production.

For people with qualms with bad production production listen to every band on my list besides Keep of Kalessin,Hirilorn, Drudkh's first album, Emperor, and Immortal, maybe Blut Aus Nord as well.

For those of you who dislike the lyrical content, what about it do you not like, the anti-Christian aspects? If so than you should just try something form the French BM scene, like Blut Aus Nord.

And for the person who mentioned Dimmu... their first two albums, For All Tid and Stormblast were good Symphonic Black Metal, anything after those two were Gothic Metal with Black influences.

Jrgen, I will be sure to check out Dornenreich. Sounds just right for me ^^. Black Metal Ist Krieg was an album and song from a BM band called Nargaroth.

[Dreddz]

not another death/heavy/horrible metal thread
Ok, you like it, just look at the other threads
I dont need another thread reminding me on how crap the music is

[Lindy]

Metal must have the most idiotic, nitpicky genre definitions out of any genre of music.

Oh god no, it's not that type of metal, it's THIS type of metal since they play it slightly faster/slower with more/less chords!

Christ, just call it Metal and be done with it, you pedantic little music-goblins.

[Crushed Hope]

not another death/heavy/horrible metal thread
Ok, you like it, just look at the other threads
I dont need another thread reminding me on how crap the music is

Hey, dude. I did not come here to cause any problems. I care here to discuss Black Metal. Not death/heavy/ or horrible. I didn't see any black metal threads so I started one of my own.

Now, I do not go around saying that rap and hip-hop are talentless genres or crappy music. Now why is that?

Aisde from the fact that I do like rap such as Jedi Mind Tricks and Aesop Rock, it is because I can respect the decisions of others and their likes and beliefs. Now I do not know you at all but I would appreciate it if you did not post in threads I make unless you have something constructive to say.

Back on topic.

Does anyone like the band Ulver or not?

Metal must have the most idiotic, nitpicky genre definitions out of any genre of music.

Oh god no, it's not that type of metal, it's THIS type of metal since they play it slightly faster/slower with more/less chords!

Christ, just call it Metal and be done with it, you pedantic little music-goblins.

There is a major flaw in that...and here is why. We do not judge based simply on how fast or how many chords are used.

Infact each genre is very easily discernable from the next. I could never be able to confuse death with black. Doom with power. Heavy with Gothic.

The reasons there are sub-genres as tight as they are is because metal is such an expansive genre in its own right.

I mean I wouldn't want to reccomend someone who likes Sonata Arctica something like Bathory or Necrophagist. Thus we have the sub-genres. So if someone asks for say, power metal (Sonata Arctica,Blind Guardian,Morgana Lefay) I will not give them Death or Black metal.

[Zeldy]

Metal must have the most idiotic, nitpicky genre definitions out of any genre of music.

Oh god no, it's not that type of metal, it's THIS type of metal since they play it slightly faster/slower with more/less chords!

Christ, just call it Metal and be done with it, you pedantic little music-goblins.

even though i like the music i totally agree with you.
So what type of music are cradle of filth? I havn't a clue O_o
I just.. sing along Headbang along! [nah not really..] ....