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    Default I have a question.

    Lots of people seem to blame things on jews. Whenever anyone does this, it's considered racist. As far as I know, Judaism is a religion, not a race. So I was wondering why exactly people blame jews for loads of problems that seem to have nothing to do with them, and also why the hell it's considered racist when it's a religion? Sorry, I just seen this thing on TV where this big redneck was saying that America is in trouble because the jews have their hands in the goverments pockets or some crap like that, when here was me thinking the problem was ignorant people like him.

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    Well, in USA multinationals have a lot of power, including of course political power (because of the economic power, of course). The CEOs of this companies tend to be wealthy jews, and so many people tend to blame the jews on the problems going on with multinationals controlling too many political decisions.

    I personally think such judgments to be preety stupid. OK, so there's jew bakers and CEOs with a lot of power, I can't deny that, but why blame the jew? You mean a jew banker is worse than a lutheran one? In any case, blame the men, blame the political system that allows this people to have more power than they should, but blaming the jew? Many people clame the zionism this CEOs have is the source of the problems. I'm not going to defend zionism, but I frankly don't think that's the main factor of the problem, as it isn't by any means the race or religion of the people in such places (other than the fact jews are supposedly very good at business, I never quite understood why). Also, it's very curious, there is a lot of jewish Nobel prizes, great jewish philosophers, etc. However, I don't understand how their religion or race is related to that. Maybe it's not even related.

    But to me, it's preety absurd. It's like saying arabs are people who blow themselves up for anything, or that north americans are fat ass uncultures rednecks that only watch football on TV all day and love the flag, etc.

    Oh, and as far as I know, there is a Jewish race. I really can't find the difference between jews and other races, but as far as I know they are supposed to have dark and slightly curly hair and big noses. And sometimes they do, sometimes not, so I dunno, but more or less this is an example. Then there's the Jewish religion.

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    I think blaming your problems on a mysterious group be it racial, religious or "shadow government/NWO" is somewhat of a copout. I say this because I (and probably 10-12 other people) have been agrueing with a guy on beliefnet that is convinced that "Jews" run the media. Well the question that he can't ever seem to answer is "if that's true, then why did he or anyone else with a similar opinion ever try to start their own media-outlet? Why do people keep buying that media?" No answer. And I think the reason is that blaming others for what's wrong with your country, culture, and whatever else is a cop-out way of saying "I can't change this because the (Jews/NWO/Roman Catholic Church/whatever) will prevent that from ever happening." So they sit on their arses never trying to make the world a better place because some mysterious "they" will stop any efforts they put forward.

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    I get that they're trying to place their problems on a scapegoat and stuff, I just wasn't sure why it was jewish people. Thanks, you guys. Although I didn't know there was a jewish race, but I guess it's true that you learn something new everyday.

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    Jews get slammed because they're a convenient target. Some groups are very easy to incite hate against, and jews unfortunatly are pretty high on the list.
    and also why the hell it's considered racist when it's a religion?
    Actually, Jewish can refer to race or religion. Though hate against them is usually it's called being anti-semitic. (don't think I spelled it right.)

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    Actually you spelled it right.
    My thoughts are not as in depth, but I think that the people they see an easy target and think "Hey if I put them down, I'm higher up on the foodchain". Those kind of people are stupid anyway.
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    God, everything gets pinned on Jews:

    “Jews control the media!”

    “Jews have more money than we do!”

    “Jews milk the holocaust for all it’s worth!”

    “Jews killed my savior!”

    DOES ANY OF IT REALLY MATTER?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyono
    Lots of people seem to blame things on jews. Whenever anyone does this, it's considered racist. As far as I know, Judaism is a religion, not a race. So I was wondering why exactly people blame jews for loads of problems that seem to have nothing to do with them, and also why the hell it's considered racist when it's a religion? Sorry, I just seen this thing on TV where this big redneck was saying that America is in trouble because the jews have their hands in the goverments pockets or some crap like that, when here was me thinking the problem was ignorant people like him.
    WEll actually it is both a relgion and a race.Jews are normally Hebrews and Hebrews are of a different ethnicicty than anyone else ont he world due to hte fact that they all decend from Abraham.Then thing about being a decendent of Abraham is the fact is surpirsingly has no racial boundries lol.An african family found out they descend directly from him.

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    the idea that all jews descend from abraham is a religious idea.

    the jewish race is like anyother race. the reason why some people don't see them as any moe than "white" is because they are not black or asian. then again people wouldn't notice a slav walking down the street, or know the difference between a japanese and vietnamese person. it's a big thing in africa. small details that make one race different from the other that noone else would notice but still are racial differences. wars have been waged and genocide committed over that in africa. and the small differences between jew, slav, romany and aryan caused the holocaust.

    i had an argument in history with a girl that wouldn't believe me that jewish was a race. it was hard to explain to her that when the gestapo man came round and asked you if you were jew instead of being able to see it most people would have denied it. (there is a true story of a racially jewish boy managing to get into the ss)

    the kids in germany were taught how to spot a jew. the distinguishing features.

    you can be jewish and christain. you can also be black and jewish.

    there is great anti-semitic debate over whether jews are a race.

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    As far as I know, Judaism is a religion, not a race.
    Jews are an ethnic group, a defined people, with their own unique religion, language, history, folklore and genetic and physiological attributes.

    you can be jewish and christain
    Problematic. While a Jew doesn't have to be religious in order to be considered a Jew (provided he answers all the other parameters), actually converting to another religion is a bit tricky, since much of the Jewish culture relies on the Jewish religion and philosophy. It's just too much of a contradiction.

    As for why Jews are hated... well, we'll start off with a statistic. 56% of Nobel Award winners are Jews. The overall percentage of Jews in the world's population is around 0.001% (about 13 million Jews total). Second, try to look up in your memory some of your favourite comedians, film-makers, or famous scientists. My point is... Jews are very prominant, vocal and visible, but their strength isn't in numbers. When they actually had to protect themselves, they often failed (up until the erection of the Jewish State of Israel), and because they are a powerful, educated and resourceful minority, they are also very much hated.

    Also, the hatred towards Jews is so very old, it seems to have run in the cultural mentallity of many a people, especially in Europe. Connotations and associations with the word 'Jew' are not very positive ones.

    DOES ANY OF IT REALLY MATTER?!
    I think it does to the Jews, mostly.

    this is an example
    Dude, I think you just picked the ugliest Paratrooper in the Israeli army.

    It's like saying arabs are people who blow themselves up for anything, or that north americans are fat ass uncultures rednecks that only watch football on TV all day and love the flag, etc.
    Too many Arabs blow themselves for it not to be considered a norm, and many Americans are indeed fat, ignorant and love the flag. There's a reason stigmas are born... Jews often mess around with money more than others do, and they have an obvious knack for it, just to specify about one of the many stereotypes.

    However, I don't understand how their religion or race is related to that. Maybe it's not even related.
    Of-course it's related. Judaism teaches that education is one of the foundations for a good, stable and moral society - and thus, those teachings have survived through the ages, and have made into a cultural norm, a mentallity. Jewish mothers give their children books, before those can even tie their own shoe-laces, if you want to go the extreme.

    America is in trouble because the jews have their hands in the goverments pockets
    Actually, that may be quite true. Because of the powerful Jewish lobby, the US aids and supports Israel more than it would've normally, and that makes a lor of other nations in the world quite upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    56% of Nobel Award winners are Jews.
    I think that has a lot to do with the western countries' feelings of guilt after the holocaust. Atleast when it comes to litterature. Notice how most of the winners are jews who write really boring books about the holocaust. The term anti-semitism is pretty dumb too, as you don't have to be jewish to be a semite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris
    God, everything gets pinned on Jews:
    “Jews have more money than we do!”
    This is because in Europe about 4-500 years ago money was thought to be evil so they made the Jews take care of all the money since they too were evil. xD

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    I think that has a lot to do with the western countries' feelings of guilt after the holocaust.
    Damn right they had feelings of guilt (I suppose that sort of things is bound to happen when you kill a few millions of innocent people), but I doubt it had anything to do with they way Nobel Awards were given.

    Notice how most of the winners are jews who write really boring books about the holocaust.
    And I suppose you've read them all?

    The term anti-semitism is pretty dumb too, as you don't have to be jewish to be a semite.
    Shem was one of Noach's three sons, the one son from which the Jewish people are descended, according to the Biblical story. The others were Yefet (Europe) and Ham (Africa and the surroundings countries).
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    It's like asking why all the people around here blame all crime on black people, really.
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