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    Did they take out Odin's counting in the PS1 version? That might be a problem.

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    Could Cecil cast Dark when he was a Dark Knight? If he could not (it was a menu command), then it's an easytype version for sure.

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    Cecil had Dark
    Rosa Has Pray
    FuSoYa had spirit
    The twins had Tears and Boast(I think that was right, been awhile since I actually had them)
    Yang had Endure and Buildup.
    Etc..

    Yeah they have special abilities.


    As for attacking the main cpu with attack spells.. doesn't work unless it cuts through wall. He always has wall on.. he recasts is so often that he sometimes had walled my characters... talk about annoying. that messed wiht my healing a little bit.


    And yes Odin doesn't count. Bahamut did so it was easy to time him.. but odin seems to be fairly random about it. sometimes he attacks 3 or 4 times before his sword raises other times he hits 5 or so times before his sword raises. That or I just miscounted.

    But I gotta give this game a hand for being more difficult then many other final fantasys I played.

    [edit] got rydia to lvl 45... got thunder 3.. took out odin. not much trouble with thunder 3.. though it took a couple tries to time it right.. i have to cast before he raises his sword for it to hit him before he iron swords.
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    FuSoYa with Spirit? I thought he had Regen


    Alright this thing is giving me a pain in the .. well everywhere.

    Party is
    FuSoYa lvl 50
    Rosa lvl 37
    Cecil lvl 34
    Rydia lvl 33
    Edge lvl 35
    You dont train enough no wonder you lose...

    If you've just been on the moon, the best place to level up I think is the Phantom God's cave. When you're short of HP and AP, you just go out to the Big Whale and rest. Also if you steal Artemis Arrows from that enemy that looks like an *-amazon-* (I can't remember the name now) they're very good for the dragons you meet on your way to Zeromus.
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    I want to remind everyone that double posting is not acceptable. Use the edit/delete button if you want to add to your post and no one else has posted since.
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    Isn't the "Do not double-post" you put in the double-posts you edit enough of a reminder?

    Anyway...so this post isn't deleted for not having a "point".

    What's the difference between the easy-type and the Anthologies version? I mean the twins have Tears and Boast, instead of Cry and ... whatever the other one had. Yang had Endure and Buildup, instead of Bear and whatever else. And FuSoYa had ... Spirit? I personally liked the version without everybody's little "special" abilities, not even Dark or Pray or Recall or anything.

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    OOC:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    Isn't the "Do not double-post" you put in the double-posts you edit enough of a reminder?
    Not when I have to do it three times in one short thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    What's the difference between the easy-type and the Anthologies version?
    Aside from the abilities, it's a hell of a lot harder. You will have a very hard time beating a lot of bosses at lower levels. In fact you'll have a hard time beatine Zeromus at level 50-55. Calling him a pushover at those levels in the easy-type version would have been an understatement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    What's the difference between the easy-type and the Anthologies version?
    Aside from the abilities, it's a hell of a lot harder. You will have a very hard time beating a lot of bosses at lower levels. In fact you'll have a hard time beatine Zeromus at level 50-55. Calling him a pushover at those levels in the easy-type version would have been an understatement.
    Damn I'm stupid, I meant the Chronicles version.

    I remember my SNES version being much easier than than the Chronicles version, but it didn't have those little side-abilities. I noticed the copy I have now is quite a bit harder, and I have to level up a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    What's the difference between the easy-type and the Anthologies version?
    Aside from the abilities, it's a hell of a lot harder. You will have a very hard time beating a lot of bosses at lower levels. In fact you'll have a hard time beatine Zeromus at level 50-55. Calling him a pushover at those levels in the easy-type version would have been an understatement.
    Are you kidding me, I had the highest lvl player clearing lvl 70, the rest in the mid 60s and up. Zeromus still kills if you try anything fancy. Rosa must cast Cure 4 on everyone at every turn, right after big bang, or you won't survive the fight most of the time. Really cheap double moves. Easy type is better. I don't see what's all the fuss about hard-type. it's all just menu cheapness, not difficulty. I guess if everyone is at lvl 99 it might be comfortable to face Zeromus in the hard version. Trying to extend the playing time with forced leveling up is a bit stupid. Hours of boring leveling up? forget it. The only thing that challenges is your patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookieface
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
    What's the difference between the easy-type and the Anthologies version?
    Aside from the abilities, it's a hell of a lot harder. You will have a very hard time beating a lot of bosses at lower levels. In fact you'll have a hard time beatine Zeromus at level 50-55. Calling him a pushover at those levels in the easy-type version would have been an understatement.
    Are you kidding me, I had the highest lvl player clearing lvl 70, the rest in the mid 60s and up. Zeromus still kills if you try anything fancy. Rosa must cast Cure 4 on everyone at every turn, right after big bang, or you won't survive the fight most of the time. Really cheap double moves. Easy type is better. I don't see what's all the fuss about hard-type. it's all just menu cheapness, not difficulty. I guess if everyone is at lvl 99 it might be comfortable to face Zeromus in the hard version. Trying to extend the playing time with forced leveling up is a bit stupid. Hours of boring leveling up? forget it. The only thing that challenges is your patience.

    Not really.
    Some players (including myself) like a more challenging game that requires some (if little) tactic skill to be beaten.
    Besides, the easytype version was censored in a lot of places and had a really bad english translation. It also missed a lot of useful items and character skills.
    Last but not least, and what's most important to me, there were whole lines of dialogue left out of the easytype version that enriched the story a lot, such as Kain mentioning about he and Cecil being orphans and his late father being the best of dragoons. Without seeing that scene, you cannot really understand why (SPOILER)Kain goes to Mt. Ordeals in the end...

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    I wasn't arguing the stuff that was taken out, nor the censorship. Only the battles. There is no need to force leveling up just to make the game longer. It seems tedious and pointless, and it's a pretty loose definition of "tactic". But das just my opinion

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    There's also no point in making it extremely easy, to the point that no leveling or sidequests are required before beating the game.

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