Quote Originally Posted by The New Liquid Air Field!
What? You want to KEEP some of they money you earn? You're evil! You're selfish! You're narcisitic! What kind of world would we live in, if people actually had a motivation to work?!? If one man's greater work ethic put him above another man's laziness? Oh, the horror--oh, the humanity!
I never said evil, you're just like the rest of them. People would work becouse they want to help other people. For survival, like wolfs in tribes, they hunt for food together. If one wolf is sent outside the tribe, that wolf is dead. We're a bit more intelligent so we wont die alone, but we'll hunt in a group, with society, if you get me. As you're reffering to Socialism in most cases, you get to keep some of your money, but you have to give around 50% to the government. It isnt much, considdering all that the government gives back to you. It's more socialist to have free health care then to force every civile habitant to pay for theyr own health care. Should rich people have right to higher medication? I think not.
People would not work becuase they want to help other people. They would be forced to work, and they would do it under a banner of "humanitarian principles. Humans are neither loners who can/could go through their entire life without human beings, but nor are we "pack animals" looking out for the good of the pack. We trade. No matter how glorified you make it out to seem that people help each other expecting nothing in return. That reduces humanity to mutual slavery, prostating themselves to others and expecting to be bowed to back.

And another quick thing - no one has the "right" to medication. One has a right to life (basic and obvious), liberty (freedom of choice - i.e. where one's money goes, to think and speak as they want, etc) and the pursuit of happiness (to achieve the most that one can in this lifetime). Socialism/communism hampers the last two inalienable rights and reduces the first to a level of sustenence - and intends to justify it by claiming that since all people are poor, it's all right.

Medication needs to be paid for. It's not a right, but it is possible. It requires personal responsibility.
No, you're not taking from what another person has earned--you're taking from what every person has earned. And if you do a more valuable job than every other person, you get no reward for it--leading people to forsake the more difficult, more educated, more important jobs to go for the easier, more common jobs.
Not really, medics are farly common in Cuba.
And do you really think that a title is more important then civil rights?
Is a lawer more important then the smiling guy who serves food at a common resturant? Not really. Food coulnd be served without the waitress.
What about the bussenis man (edducation needed) in countrary to the artist (creativety needed)? The artist is, in my oppinoin, clearly more important, as he contributes more to society then the bussenis man.
The fundamental importance in this logic is that people are allways, whitout any exeption, more important then cash or any item.
No offense, but this is wrong. I would think society would need the lawyer a hell of a lot more than the waiter. That is why the lawyer is paid a hell of a lot more. And, the business man is obviously in more need than the artist. The artist fulfills a fundamental need of a human - art- but he does not lead an industry that will create products to help everyone existing in that society. (Oh, and he does it for the money, not to help people. Everyone wins.)
All men are created equal. Their lives place them on the level they should be, and seperate the equality we have at birth.
The level they should be? I strongly disagree!
They all play an importance to our society. Without the baker, people couldt get bread from the market. Without the garbage men, people would live in a more clean nature. There are people alive today that care for nature even tought caring for it dosnt putt you in a high job possition, I guess these people would still care if theyr title gave them as much importance as the medic.
...hrm. I understand your logic, and it's true. Every spot needs to be filled. But what Sasquatch (and I, any anyone who recognizes the importance of capitalism and freedom) is stressing is that these people be placed there on ability. That is true freedom - allowing a person to go as high and as far as his ability can take him. Just like someone destined for fast food should not be the president, neither should a person worthy of the president should be a fast-food worker.