I'm pretty sure what the sword Ultima Weapon is carrying if you compare the pictures below. What I don't get is how Ultima Weapon could get Cloud Strife's Ultima Weapon, if it is indeed his sword (if it isn't they sure look similar).
Any ideas?
How Did Ultima Weapon Get The Sword?
I'm pretty sure what the sword Ultima Weapon is carrying if you compare the pictures below. What I don't get is how Ultima Weapon could get Cloud Strife's Ultima Weapon, if it is indeed his sword (if it isn't they sure look similar).
Any ideas?
They're most certainly the same weapon design. There is no story of Ultima Weapon obtaining the sword, it's simply an "easter egg" reference to the previous game.
Well, since it's Ultima Weapon's sword, obiviously. You get it after beating him in FF7. The the question is "why didn't he use it himself in FF7?" The sword itself is also called Ultima Weapon.
The story behind Atma Weapon (who's, in a theory I've come up with, actually the same dude as Ultima Weapon) and the Atma Weapon sword is that they were both created in the war of the magi. The monster is a magical beast of mass-destruction and the sword have a blade that's created by the wielders soul, which is why the Atma Weapon sword gets shorter and less powerful when its wielder runs low on HP. Cloud's Ultima Weapon sword also gets weaker and gets a different and darker colour when his HP is running low.
Of course, the "Weapons" have a different stoty in FF7... as long as Atma/Ultima Weapon wasn't a magical beast of mass destruction "created by the planet". But as far as I remember, that's never mentioned in FF6.
Anyways... another thing I've thought about is: Why doesn't Ultima Weapon's HP affect the sword he's wielding in FFVIII?
Well, the case could be that since Ultima Weapon always keep coming back in the next FFs (and you can fight him over and over again in FFX-2), he never actually dies and his soul always remains the same. He's destroyed but never completely killed, making the sword remain at the same power-level all the time.
And why doesn't he do 9999 dammage when hitting with the sword, just like Cloud do? Well, because your stupid party have to much in defense, of course!Ever tried to hit Ruby Weapon with Cloud's Ultima Weapon and full HP? Well, the dammage will still be patetic since Ruby Weapon's defense is absurd. That's usually the case in FFVIII as well... but it's your party that have a high def instead. Ultima Weapon's attack power at level100 is actually 254... just 1 point less than max. So he IS powerful with the sword.
However... in FFVIII no one hits for 9999 just like that with a normal attack. You do it with limmit breaks. But Ultima Weapons str is still almost maxed, which means that he IS extremely powerful while using the Ultima Weapon sword. Even if he never do 9999 dammage with it, his normal phycical attacks are still more powerful than thos of any other enemy in the game. But normal phsycical attacks have a minor part to play in FFVIII anyways... so... meh.
ps: a big Ultima Weapon action figure is watching me as I'm typing this.
Last edited by Ultima Shadow; 06-14-2005 at 06:52 PM.
to put that a bit shorter(no disrespect to ultima shadow of course.)ultima weapon who was called atma weapon in FF6 has always been the owner of the sword cloud doesnt own the sword he simply is able to weild it but he did take it from ultima weopon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
...*holds up free hugs sign.*
From which game and how much was the ultima weapon?Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow
Well, since it's Ultima Weapon's sword, obiviously. You get it after beating him in FF7. The the question is "why didn't he use it himself in FF7?" The sword itself is also called Ultima Weapon.
The story behind Atma Weapon (who's, in a theory I've come up with, actually the same dude as Ultima Weapon) and the Atma Weapon sword is that they were both created in the war of the magi. The monster is a magical beast of mass-destruction and the sword have a blade that's created by the wielders soul, which is why the Atma Weapon sword gets shorter and less powerful when its wielder runs low on HP. Cloud's Ultima Weapon sword also gets weaker and gets a different and darker colour when his HP is running low.
Of course, the "Weapons" have a different stoty in FF7... as long as Atma/Ultima Weapon wasn't a magical beast of mass destruction "created by the planet". But as far as I remember, that's never mentioned in FF6.
Anyways... another thing I've thought about is: Why doesn't Ultima Weapon's HP affect the sword he's wielding in FFVIII?
Well, the case could be that since Ultima Weapon always keep coming back in the next FFs (and you can fight him over and over again in FFX-2), he never actually dies and his soul always remains the same. He's destroyed but never completely killed, making the sword remain at the same power-level all the time.
And why doesn't he do 9999 dammage when hitting with the sword, just like Cloud do? Well, because your stupid party have to much in defense, of course!
However... in FFVIII no one hits for 9999 just like that with a normal attack. You do it with limmit breaks. But Ultima Weapons str is still almost maxed, which means that he IS extremely powerful while using the Ultima Weapon sword. Even if he never do 9999 dammage with it, his normal phycical attacks are still more powerful than thos of any other enemy in the game. But normal phsycical attacks have a minor part to play in FFVIII anyways... so... meh.
ps: a big Ultima Weapon action figure is watching me as I'm typing this.
He appears in FFVI (as Atma Weapon), FFVII, FFVIII, FFX and FFX-2. I think he also appears in FFI&FFII Dawn of Souls. The sword appears in FFIX as well.
Or maybe Ultima Weapon from VIII went to VII and stole it from Cloud.
Ultima: Hey, you know, I'm so popular they made me appear in nearly all Final Fantasy's!
Cloud: Oh yeah! Well i got spikey hair!
Ultima: That's so mean, I've only got ferocious teeth, a lot of HP, incredible strength, undeniable agility and the ability to crush people with spikey hair! *big growl*
Cloud: Ahhh! *runs off, leaving sword*
Ultima: Yoink! Hahahaha, all mine!
Dance Macabre
Actually, Aeris stole Cloud's sword. Then she flied to FFVIII and gave it to Ultima Weapon. From there she flied to FFIX to say "I am your father" to Dagger in the Meltigemini fight. XDDDDDD
*giggles*
*hugs Ultima Weapon*
ULTIMA WEAPON VS. CLOUD STRIFE,ROUND 2!!!!! W00T!
Cloud-What the smurf?
Ultima Weapon-What?You again? RAAGHGHGGHGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
*Battle Ensues*
*Cloud hits for 4557 damage*
*Ultima Weapon hits for 9999 damage.Cloud dies.Victory Fanfare plays.*
Ultima Weapon-NOW I HAVE TWO!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
<-- Take it from my little friend to the left.
Do not lose your braincells!
ultima weapon from ffx shows up
ff8 ultima weapon : you are not worthy of my presence or your name..
*uses phoenix down on cloud and hands him the nail bat....
cloud:
*omnislashes both ultima weapons, takes ultima weapon and walks off with a cool strut
Gimme a break!
There is no good without evil.....
....So..Is it good to be evil or evil to be good
When did this become an RP thread? Anyways, Ultima Shadow I liked your explanation and i want to learn more about Ultimas origin, perhaps you could write a full story about it...
*OT*When does Ultima weapon hold the sword?.
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Thanks. Oh, and did you ever read my incredibly long Ultima Weapon post that I posted long ago? There's a lot of info about Ultima Weapon in it. If you want, I can copy-paste and repost all that... again.
Anyways... in FFVIII, Ultima Weapon's orgin is never explained. But you could assume that, like in FFVII, he's a Weapon created by the planet. He was probably put asleep within the earth. Now there's 2 possibilities:
1) When the DSRF was built, the humans digged to deep when searching for Draw Points (or whatever it all was about) and accidently awakened Ultima Weapon. Ultima Weapon killed everyone and the facility was abbadoned etc.
2) The treat of the soccerers awakened Ultima Weapon and he started to attack stuff. Some people somehow managed to capture him and imprison him in the DSRF.
I belive the first possibility would make more sense than the second one, though.
Whenever you fight him in FFVIII.
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