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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
    The Dia spells became kind of pointless once they added the mechanic of Cure spells harming the undead. Toad status should definitely come back, though.
    Actually I don't remember Dia spells being there in my NES Final Fantasy 1 version, while Cure spells already damaged the undead. I'm pretty sure of that. But maybe it's just me not noticing that in a shop and not buying it. Meh. *goes and checks out*

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    i have a spell i made it up and i'm not too sure how it would look/work out,but here goes....

    ULTIMA APOCALYPSE!!
    as i said i'm not too sure how it would look/work out,but that's my idea..
    though a spell ultimaga would be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werecanary
    Actually I don't remember Dia spells being there in my NES Final Fantasy 1 version, while Cure spells already damaged the undead. I'm pretty sure of that. But maybe it's just me not noticing that in a shop and not buying it. Meh. *goes and checks out*
    You might want to play that game again because you'll find your memories have decieved you. In FFI, Cure only targetted party members.

    In the original American translation the spell Dia was named Harm. It's DEFINITELY there. Just start a new game and you'll see it in Corneria's white magic shop.

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    They should have it where spells cancel each other out. Like each spell has its inverse. Your opponent does ultima, then miraculusly you get out a holy spell, thus canceling out damage.

    That would be cool.
    Too big. The height limit is 250 pixels including images as well as text.

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    I don't see Ultima as the converse of Holy. Maybe Flare or something more from the darker side... But your concept is interesting if magic were cast simultaneously. Fire and Blizz would cancel, Thunder and Quake, Aero and Water. Higher spells like Flare, Ultima and Holy wouldn't be crossoutable...

    New magic? Not much new stuff, but brining the Dia/Harm spell back in replacement of cure hurting undead is cool. Its old school, I like that. Blink was cool, but gives unfair advantage in those games. Toad is cool, or Piggy or Moogle (a la Secret of Mana). Imp acctually had a usage in FFVI and I'd like a return of that. Mini is ok too, but it didn't have a huge effect in VII.

    I think more original summons would be cool. Sure you have ifrit, Shiva and Ramuh. But a higher powered elememtal summon would be nifty. Thor would be a heightened Ramuh, Cerberus would be a heightened Ifrit. I don't have a stronger Shiva, but square has a whole team of researchers, they can find one. Anyhow, I think originality of summons is sweet. Valefor was a great summon. Quetzecoatl was cool also. KOTR, cool but too long (same with Eden). Some more 1 game unique summons is something I look forward to when playing an FF for the first time. Tritoch = Sweet!

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    Since with X we've been introduced to a greater number of hit points and damage caps, I say go all out. Instead of just three levels of spells, how about five?

    I think instead of having Dia (which only hits undead) give White Mages Cure and Inflict spells. Cure spells heal living and damage undead, Inflict spells damage living and heal undead. That'd give White Mages more of a use outside of the basic healer. To offset the Black Mage becoming obsolete, give them spells of greater power (like the aforementioned 5 levels of spells).

    And I like the counterspelling idea. It should probably be a spellcaster ability that can be learned, where you set them on counterspell, and if an enemy casts a spell they can counter, they will try. Also, add an upgrade or point for point system, so if the enemy casts Fire and you're counterspelling, you can cast Blizzaga and not only counter it, but unleash a Blizzara effect on the enemy. And let the enemies do that too. It could be an alternate to guard.

    And on that note, change Guard into Counter Attack, or possibly change Guard so that it does strive to fully block a physical attack, but also allows you to attack back if your stats are high enough.

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    White mages already have holy. No need to give 'em more ammunition. If you want a hybrid healer/damage dealer use a red mage.

    Just so you know they DID bring back Dia. It's the light element poison equivalent in FFXI. Sure, not quite the same, but oh well. There you have it.

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    By bring it back, we mean to a console game that everyone can play.

    Not everyone has a highspeed cable connection to play FFXI with. Not everyone wants to pay money every month for a game they bought, or a game they can't beat. Who wants to play a game where some hacker can break into your account and steal stuff from you? I tried the MMORPG thing and it turned out to be a waste of time in the long run. I'll say one thing, they are fun as hell and addicting. But all the hours you pour into it goes to waste when you log in one day to find that everything you worked for the past 5 months on was stolen by a hacker, and that you basically have to start from scratch. I don't remember that happening in FFIX.

    Anyhow this is the wrong place for all that. We'll see when FFXII comes out what they've done to magic. Not just the system, but what spells are in it.

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