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    It's unfortunate that the Nazi's ruined the swastica. Has anybody ever noticed that all of the 'bad guys' have all of the coolest looking stuff? The Swastica, Nazi salute, Sickle and Hammer? Come on... it just isn't fair!

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    I think that the Nazi philosophy was (and is) carried out the wrong way, much like socialism (Stalin was a bad man). From what I understand, the basic thought which Hitler thought was to have a society that doesn't have cultural differences in a way that they offend others, as in molding the culture so that no one would argue with each other. From Hitlers point of view, this could only be done by getting rid of all those who are different from HIS race (that's where he went wrong) and mold everyone to be like him, instead of compromising. I know there are a lot of other things aswell that belong into the nazi area of behavior and actions, but this is one of them.
    If you look at Hitler's personal life (anyone seen Der Untergang / The Downfall?), it was quite the healthy one: he was vegetarian, didn't smoke or drink alcohol. He had a dog, Blondie, whom he probably liked more than many people in his life (because of its loyalty). I think that is an expression of discipline, and quite the healthy, good way to live, no matter what other things he did. And because of those other things, 99% of the people see him as the anti-christ or something. He was a human, too, believe it or not (this is what I wanted to point out - and please don't get me wrong, I'm not a nazi or a supporter of the nazi party).

    What I'm trying to say is, these kinds of strong life philosophies and religions both are a double-edged sword to me: they provide a good line to follow and to lead a good life, however it is often the way that they are followed that has the flaws.

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    The only crime, from a legal standpoint, is vandalism.
    No, it's not just that. The fact those are Nazi Crosses painted over Jewish graves adds another flavour into all of this, another dimension. It's not just another case of vandalism - this had specific reasons, and the actual devestation of property (which is the only point in vandalism) isn't it - the reasons is to show off hate, and to make the Jewish minority feel beleaguered and un-safe.

    much like socialism (Stalin was a bad man).
    Stalin was a Communist, and and a brutal communist at that, too. Socialism is simply a political stand that claims the weak in society should be taken care of, and that equality should be strived for, even at the expense of the strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    much like socialism (Stalin was a bad man).
    Stalin was a Communist, and and a brutal communist at that, too. Socialism is simply a political stand that claims the weak in society should be taken care of, and that equality should be strived for, even at the expense of the strong.
    I knew socialism isn't as "raw" as communism, but aims at the same goal, so I thought it wasn't that big a deal to write that. In other words I think they're basically the same (socialism just doesn't sound as harsh somehow o.o)

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    Communism is the goal socialism strives for. Every communism is supposed to initially have started as a socialism and then gradually developed into a communism. Socialism is "Communism lite". It sounds less harsh as it is less harsh. Also, when speaking of socialism and communism, what Stalin did is entirely irrelevant. Stalin was not devoted to the ideology of communism. He just used it to be able to run the Sovjet Union as the totalitarian leader he was. There are no good examples of communisms as it is an impossible ideology to enforce on a national level.

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    I don't think I'll ever agree to the conversion of our government to communism (I'm from The Philippines BTW). 'Sides, I was told that if ever a government is transformed to communism then you;ve stripped every man of that land of his dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rini
    I think that the Nazi philosophy was (and is) carried out the wrong way, much like socialism (Stalin was a bad man). From what I understand, the basic thought which Hitler thought was to have a society that doesn't have cultural differences in a way that they offend others, as in molding the culture so that no one would argue with each other. From Hitlers point of view, this could only be done by getting rid of all those who are different from HIS race (that's where he went wrong) and mold everyone to be like him, instead of compromising. I know there are a lot of other things aswell that belong into the nazi area of behavior and actions, but this is one of them.

    What I'm trying to say is, these kinds of strong life philosophies and religions both are a double-edged sword to me: they provide a good line to follow and to lead a good life, however it is often the way that they are followed that has the flaws.
    Please read Mein Kampf by Adolf Hilter (you'll have to read the edited version; in his original German manuscript, he didn't write very well) and tell me the man was motivated by benevolence and love, please.

    Out of all of the philosophies I disagree with out there, Nazism is one of the few I would say really doesn't have a good side (or its intent is to "lead a good life").

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