JENOVA Cell Acceptance and Limit Sterilization

[ScottNUMBERS]

Masamune, Im open to theories but personally I cant imagine the workings of the battle system having a bearing on the storyline. I think thats expecting too much from Square and I dont think the game is nearly that well thought out. With that in mind I cant see that theory as much more than, well...a theory.

I agree.

Heres my theory on limit breaks..

Square Cronie#1: Lets make the battle system more interesting.

Square Cronie#2: Yes, lets. :rolleyes2

Thus limit breaks were born.

[Christmas]

Trance in FF IX play a rather important role in the plot considering the existence of Trance Kuja.

Even though this apply to FF IX but you never know..........

[Ultima Shadow]

I've just got 1 thing to say... I FREAKING LOVE YOU GUYS!!! < Masamune∙1600 and Squal of SeeD, that is. The rest of you suck.

[Shoden]

Excellent.

SoS I got some questions for you: Where do you get this stuff from? You must love wasting spare time on essays in Eoff. Jesus this better not happen to me.

*Turns Ultima Shadow into a fish* we do not suck ;-;.

about them monsters in the pods in Nibelheim reactor, If they were linked to Jenova and bathed in mako energy does that mean that both mutated them?

I have a few more things but I'm in too much of a state to remember. Going to bed 3AM and waking up at 12PM doesn't do you good.


*Gives Squall of SeeD a cookie and Masamune one too* well done, All this stuff is making me research deeper into FF7 but I will never know as much as you guys.

[bipper]

This game is 8 years old.. Have you guys musta started typing these essays about the time of its relese

Very well done and- very - if not too... informative You two should colaberate and set up a web page. Let me know when you finish your drafts on final fantasy VIII

Bipper

[Fonzie]

The thing thats make's limit breaks is when the character is pissed off so much because they keep getting hit(after the 20th time of getting hit you'd get pissed off too . I mean when you get mad you want something to unlease it on, after you do you feel better. Same thing with the characters here in the game. So Vincent was brought back to life by something. We don't know what that "something" is though. It could of been the JENOVA cells or "something" else. Hell, it could have been Mako for we all know, but the thing is we don't know what that "something" is. (Just added this to make myself feel better and seem smarter XP.) If you go to all of the Old Staff of SquareSoft about this statment they would probaley be baffled. I bet that even the Old Staff didn't know what that "something" is that resurected Vincent is. So this may or may not be true. It would be better if Square Enix got all the Old Staff of Final Fantasy together to make a re-make of the game and try to fill some of these holes so we would know a little bit more about how Vincent was resurected. Until then, we'll have to keep making these theorys. I feel better(and smarter).

[G SpOtZ]

is it possible they'll tell us about Vincent in Dirge of Cerberus? cuz that'd be interesting and worth getting.

[Shoden]

most likely more about Vincent will be revealed in DOC.

[Vyk]

Hahaha, Squall of SeeD and Masamune are <3 You guys both rock on FF material. Love reading posts you both make pretty much regarding any FF

[Fonzie]

Maybe their the same person O_o, or their differnet personalitys in the same body.

[Mercen-X]

So, a Gaian's spirit energy allows them (under special circumstances) to use limit breaks? How does spirit energy allow Cid to pull a stick of dynamite out of his pocket or use a remote to call the Highwind? How does spirit energy allow Barret to signal a satellite blast from space?

[G SpOtZ]

So, a Gaian's spirit energy allows them (under special circumstances) to use limit breaks? How does spirit energy allow Cid to pull a stick of dynamite out of his pocket or use a remote to call the Highwind? How does spirit energy allow Barret to signal a satellite blast from space?

thas a good point. same with cids highwind limit.

[Masamune·1600]

While I haven't considered it very carefully yet, I believe I may have developed a storyline explanation for something that previously seemed to be entirely an aspect of gameplay.

WEAPON, as previously stated, may at least partially serve the purpose of returning Spirit Energy to the Planet. This would, naturally, strengthen the Lifestream.

In the game, characters obtain new Limit Break levels after defeating a varying number of enemies. Assuming my Limit/Spirit Energy thesis to be at least somewhat accurate, it's possible that the Spirit Energy returned to the Planet is what allows the characters to heighten their Limit abilities.

So, a Gaian's spirit energy allows them (under special circumstances) to use limit breaks? How does spirit energy allow Cid to pull a stick of dynamite out of his pocket or use a remote to call the Highwind? How does spirit energy allow Barret to signal a satellite blast from space?

This is a difficult question, I must admit. One would also have to question, however, why Barret (for example) would have access to an unfathomably advanced piece of technology, given that man only first reaches space during the events of the game.

The only explanation I can offer at the moment would be that the energy utilized during those attacks is actually derivative of the Lifestream. Satellite Beam, for example, might be the manifestation of Barret's Spirit Energy in an attack form (similar to the Sister Ray, only without the negative aspect of Mako consumption). Similarly, the missles from the Highwind could somehow be infused with Limit power (this would certainly be the more taxing part of the Limit; one would think Cid wouldn't need to use a Limit manual to remotely access the Highwind). Even Dynamite could be argued to be a manifestation of Spirit Energy (at least in a sense).

Another possiblity concerns the characters in question. Most of the time, Limits seem to revolve around the nature of the weapon a character uses. Barett, whose weapons are clearly "technological" in nature, may have thusly tied his Spirit Energy to technology. Similarly, Cid wholeheartedly advocates the potential of science.

Cid: Yeah, I understand. I understand that Materia is precious, and also
understand what you're thinking. But listen. I don't give a rat's ass whether
it's science or magical power. No, I guess if I had to choose, I'd rather put my
money on the power of science. Humans who used to only roam around on the ground
are able to fly now! And finally, we're about to go into outer space. Science is
a "Power" created and developed by humans. And science just might be what saves
this planet. I was able to earn my living thanks to science. So to me, there's
nothing greater! Now quit your worrying 'bout what Shinra's gonna do! I don't
want to regret not having done something later.

As such, his Limits might at times manifest in "scientific" ways.

These answers are obviously not perfect, and I'm not sure they can be perfected. Regardless, I believe the overall premise can survive intact, as a Limit like Satellite Beam is somewhat illogical no matter how one approaches it.

[G SpOtZ]

i have a question... ermm.... questionS....

Would any of this determine how MANY possible limits an individual can have? Everybody has 2 different limits per each limit level (except for the 4th). What determines that each person HAS to have this number of limit breaks?
Also, each character needs a level 4 limit break MANUAL to learn it. What exactly is this "manual" and does it involve spirit energy? Is it an item that you learn the limit from? How would any of this stuff you talked about relate to a manual?

Sorry for all the questions ^_^ just curious as to how you'll answer this because i'm very interested in you're explainations.

[Ageless_Bum]

The idea of finding an "item" for the final limit level doesnt realy bother me ( Even in this theoretical discusion) because one can assume a decent explination on almost all of them due to where they are found in correspondence to that characters individual story. Save my one exception, which is Cloud. The aquisition of his level four does bother me (both in the context of this discussion and otherwise). It is seemingly attainable by anyone. Anyone who gains enough battle points can get this limit break (note I dont mean learn it). But, if as the fact that it is attainable by everyone suggests anything to me, it is that some limit breaks other than the 7777 are universal. Of course the other question then is why cant the others get omnislash as well. Its still in the list of prizes even after bought, though it does say one per customer. I realise I have presented this in a quasi-simplistic manner (IE the implication arent all stated and my statements are "dumbed down"), but all the same I think it has bearing on the discussion.