Ultimecia/Rinoa Similarities

[Squall of SeeD]

Well firstly, If Im being paranoid and you dont know where Im comeing from with this Im sincerley sorry but its four in the morning and I get the feeling you're subtley patronising me in parts of your response and Im too tired to not kick up a fuss over it. Im saying what I genuinely think and I've explained why I think so, with that in mind if you are trying to irritate me knock it off.

I wasn't, though being tired myself, I see that I had written it in such a way that it could be construed as such. Sorry about that.

Well now I see what you're getting at and it makes sense but I dont remeber the game saying that the castle was transportable. I know it floats but it was tied down by chains. Yeah you could say theyre an anchor or something but I didnt feel the game made much suggestion that Ultimecia ever moved the castle. I felt she just left it parked in the same spot for most of the time. The corpses were fresh its fair to say but whos to say the SeeD's didnt come to her as opposed to vice versa?

The fact that it floats is enough to suggest that it's mobile. As for your point about the SeeDs having, perhaps, mounted an assault upon Ultimecia there, it's possible, sure, though I personally find it more likely that the giant floating castle was floating about and then parked there while Ultimecia slaughtered her mortal enemies.

Why have a floating castle that has to be anchored with chains in the first place if you aren't ever moving it?

FFVIII was packed with a fairy tale theme? Sorry I dont buy it and maybe its because its four in the morning but I dont see where your coming from with that.

I didn't say that it's packed with it, but it certainly plays off of it. You'd absolutely have to be trying to ignore it not to see it.

What do the Forest Owls call Rinoa? "Our Princess":

Zone
"Just take it easy. Here, let me introduce you."
"Looks like you already met Watts."
"I guess it's just our princess then."


Watts
"It's the princess' nap time, sir."


Zone
"Ahh, man..."
"Hey, Squall, sorry, but could you go get the princess?"

What do Zell and Quistis call Rinoa? "The Princess":

(Note: They even make a joke about the concept of a Prince's kissing awakening the sleeping Princess, a common theme of Fairy Tales.)

(On the Esthar side of the Horizon Bridge.)

Quistis
"Squall, you're late."

Zell
"Is the princess still asleep?"

Quistis
"She might wake up with a kiss from the prince."

The fact that Rinoa went into that coma in the first place was a play on the concept of the maiden of a Fairy Tale going into a deep sleep (see Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs or Sleeping Beauty).

Well I genuinely never had that pointed out to me, my impression of time compression was all existence would die and she would be alone for an eternity. She may have said the SeeD's would be her eternal slaves but I recall Rinoa saying only she (Ultimecia) could live in a world like that.

Yes, only Ultimecia could live in the Time Compressed existance, however, Ultimecia was absorbing all existance itself into her own being. She wasn't destroying it, but reshaping it. She was becoming one with it all. She would essentially be the all-permeating force in the universe, because she would be the universe, with the power to shape it at her will. Thus, she would be God.

And, yeah, I definitely think that Ultimecia's quote should be taken literally. She tells SeeD she's going to send them to a dimension beyond their imagination where she will rule and they will be her slaves:

"Insolent fools!"

"Your vain krusade ends here, SeeDs."

"The price for your meddling is death beyond death."

"I shall send you to a dimension beyond your imagining."

"There, I will reign, and you will be my slaves for eternity.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."

She wasn't speaking of destroying them, though.