Quote Originally Posted by mecharmor25
Actually I don't think the Russians should be blamed for what they did to the whermacht. Besides its only a fraction of what the whermacht did to the Russians. The country who suffered the most seems to be hated the most and I don't know why. If anything blame the soviet government not the average citizen.
Whilst that is a comfortable view in theory, it's not strictly true. Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did. Who do you think committed the murders? The suffering on both sides was about the same in the end, I'll get on to 'who started it' later.


Quote Originally Posted by mecharmor25
It was the whermacht who attacked them first. The whermacht's priority was to kill as many unarmed civilians as possible as to destroy the morale of the red army. The red army was only punishing the whermacht for killing their children.
Despite the fact that the Red Army invaded the Baltic Free States & annexed them in 1939, the Red Army invaded Poland the same time Germany did. They BOTH wanted to annex that nation & shared the spoils at the end of Setember. They even met for publicity shots. in November 1939 the USSR then invade Finland to taker control of the Karelina region & got a very blood nose. The Soviets had the same imperialistic asperations Germany did. Not only that but Stalin's purges & cleansing of his populous left more dead than Hitler's mad regime.
Whilst I agree, the average Russian suffered greatly from both the German's AND the Commissars, the Red Army is FAR from innocent. They 'punished' not only Wehrmacht soldiers but Russian civilians, Ukrainians, Latvians, Finnish, etc etc. The vast majority of these summary executions were non-military. Revenge for the death odf women & children by killing women and children? Please, educate yourself, even in theory that's ridiculous.

Quote Originally Posted by mecharmor25
The whermacht basically declared war against civilians, not the military. A majority of the whermacht missions involve going into house xy and killing the wife and kids of mr. A and Mr.B and then the whermacht compete against each other to see who can kill the most and then go home and excitedly brag about how much more they killed than their comorades. Hospitals, nursing homes and retirement buildings where the favorite targets of the whermacht. The whermacht motto was "civilians first then military". Basically the whermacht always try to kill all the civilians before confronting any armed force. Most of their tactics involve evading armed forces and go directly towards hospitals, schools, retirement centers, clinics and nursing homes. The most favorite target of the whermacht.
You are so wrong here it's almost hysterical but I'll try to give you an answer this whole paragraph doesn't really deserve.
The Wehrmacht never 'declared war on civilians' where on earth are your sources for this madness? In the East it was, for want of a better word, a 'free for all', on the West civilians of France, Greece, Low Countries etc were treated, by in large, with a great deal of respect & freedom of movement (within reason). The Wehrmacht's motto was NEVER 'civilians first then military' stop stating this madness as if it was fact. You clearly have little to no education on this subject, please stop TRYING to come across like you do by making stuff up, it won't rub, I know my stuff & will call you on every fictional statement you make to fill in the gaps on your statements. The last bit about avoiding Army targets is the single most insane statement I've seen here. Please, if you insist on posting on a subject, research it before you post. You are coming across very foolish here.