As has been said, ribbons arent that hard to find... you should have at least a couple in your inventory by that point in the game. They're found in chests in a few places. And though they dont get rid of condemned (notice I didnt say it got rid of all the status effects), it gets rid of everything else which makes the process considerably easier. And, as has been said, if you arent fighting difficult monsters that take forever, condemned doesnt make a bit of difference.
okay i just found him again and ultimaed him to death. oh yea so another question: when im in kefkas place, (the tower thing) is there a way to change party members? i keep getting killed by Inferno, Striker, and Rough, cuz my third party is really weak.
why dont we just change the name of this thread to "help sam" thread?
Sam = Ax = MAS82587 = PedroXC = DistanceRunner = Cloud of SOLDIER
The only way to switch party members is to Warp out and start over. What I did when I had weak people was do as much as I could on every path with my strong party, or balance the parties out more.
is there a way to fight that Inferno thing with another party?
Sam = Ax = MAS82587 = PedroXC = DistanceRunner = Cloud of SOLDIER
No, you can't fight Inferno with another party.
But this is what I did with Kefka's Tower.
Every time I'd enter I'd have one group with my strongest magic users and Mog because of the Moogle Charm.
It didn't matter who was in the other two groups because they weren't going anywhere.
I'd walk around freely with the one group and collect all the treasures, and Ultima the hell out of any bosses that came my way.
Then I'd just warp out of there, and place the same group on a different route.
Does that make sense?
Sorry if it doesn't.
wow thats a really good idea, so would u recomend warping out and just doing that the whole time?Originally Posted by x_Hopeless_Deviate_x
No, you can't fight Inferno with another party.
But this is what I did with Kefka's Tower.
Every time I'd enter I'd have one group with my strongest magic users and Mog because of the Moogle Charm.
It didn't matter who was in the other two groups because they weren't going anywhere.
I'd walk around freely with the one group and collect all the treasures, and Ultima the hell out of any bosses that came my way.
Then I'd just warp out of there, and place the same group on a different route.
Does that make sense?
Sorry if it doesn't.
Sam = Ax = MAS82587 = PedroXC = DistanceRunner = Cloud of SOLDIER
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Do you mean complete Kefka's Tower with only one group and just keep warping out?
A.) The Ragnarok esper is much better than the sword. As has been pointed out, Illumina is definitely overrated.
B.) The items you get from Metamorph don't matter, what matters is the fact that it automatically takes an enemy off the field, and cheap.
C.) The Paladin Shield is great, but it's a pain in the ass to get. If you're good enough that you don't have to fight just to level up, you'll be done by the time you uncurse it anyway.
D.) I've used Vanish and Doom or X-Zone on Doomgaze more than once, and I've always gotten Bahamut. There's something else you get from him--a relic--that you don't get, though. You'll still get the esper.
L.) Just balance your groups out. One time I tried it with just Mog and his Moogle Charm as his own group, but he also had a Snow Muffler, so when he got to that Statue and it kept using South Cross (or North Cross?) on him, it'd just heal him. The Snow Muffler is awesome, I'd definitely say to get one or two of those (for Mog and Gau).
S.) If you're looking to gain experience, head to the dinosaur-shaped forest near Narshe. You can steal Ribbons and win Economizers from the Brontaurs there, and the Tyrannasaurs give good experience, too--especially if you can kill 'em by turning them into Dried Meat with Ragnarok. (From the air north of the forest, it looks like an alligator head--from the south, it looks like a brontaur, or a veggie-saurus looking back.)
Doom Gaze does not drop a relic. The only thing you can get from him is the Bahamut Magicite.
I'm here to chime in with my opinion that the Morph command is more or less useless since it doesn't net you anything you can't get elsewhere, and the sword is one of the most powerful weapons in the game for Terra, Celes, Locke, and Edgar. Since Ultima can be learned by alternative means, I recommend going with the sword.
But that's just me.
And if memory serves, you can Vanish+Doom Doomgaze/Deathguise without any negative side effects, but Vanish+Xzoning him will prevent him from dropping the Bahamut magicite.
I'd assume you're referring to the Illumina sword and not the Ragnarok. Illumina is good, but not that good. And nobody cares for Metamorph because of the items it turns the enemies into, we like it simply because it takes an enemy out of the battle. I like the sword too, but the Paladin Shield is too much of a hassle to deal with, plus the Magicite teaches you quicker (not faster, just earlier).
Not to mention...does the Ragnarok Magicite have any level-up bonuses? I didn't think so, but I could be wrong.
I believe that's how it works.And if memory serves, you can Vanish+Doom Doomgaze/Deathguise without any negative side effects, but Vanish+Xzoning him will prevent him from dropping the Bahamut magicite.
I like to get the sword, because you can learn Ultima via Paladin's Shield which isn't THAT much of a pain to uncurse. I've fought in the Dinosaur forest with the Cursed Shield and the Ribbon and had no problems beating the enemies before time ran out.
ok heres what happened:
i vanish/xzoned him a couple of times and nothing would happen, so i finally fought him and after two battles he died and droped the magicite, so that answers all those questions there.
as for the question that started it all, i picked the magicite, and thank the Lord i did! i just beat the game for the first time tonight, and all i used was ultima for just about every boss. i never needed the sword. thanks for all the advice everyone.
Sam = Ax = MAS82587 = PedroXC = DistanceRunner = Cloud of SOLDIER
I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Also, Odin has a much better level-up bonus (+1 Speed, and it's the only one that gives a speed bonus) than Raiden (can't remember what it was), so I usually don't upgrade Odin 'til I'm done upgrading people's speed. Not that it's at all relevant.
Me too!
A week or so ago was my second time beating the game and it went by fast because I just did Ultima over and over.
So yes, I pretty much did the same thing as you!
My Gem Box user was even wiped out just before Kefka finally appeared and I still beat him on my first try.
But the first time I beat this game was several years ago.
And I don't think any of my characters even knew Ultima.
I barely taught them any spells at all.
I remember the battles being very challenging though.
Made it kinda more fun!
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