Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch
If people are still too damn stupid to see any truth, this isn't my fault. Nevermind the fact that we found WMD supplies, paraphenalia, protection, plans, and small amounts of WMDs themselves--nevermind the fact that Saddam had years and years without any supervision to sell, trade, develop, produce, and hide his weapons--nevermind the fact that Saddam had a history of not only pursuit and application of technology for more and deadlier WMDs, but also hostility towards America and the Western World for their "interfering", and of refusing to comply with much of anything laid down by convening authorities...we didn't find as much as we expected, so it's all wrong, huh?

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I actually aggree with most of this, and in fact, I can add a thing or three, since I was actually in the Persian Gulf twice during my enlistment in the US Navy. Even BEFORE 9/11, I saw reconnaisance photos during the nightly intel briefings in CIC (we were in the Gulf as part of UN operation preventing weapons and oil smuggling to and from Iraq) that, well, even though I can't reveal any details, since the information is classified, let me say that if Saddam didn't have any WMDs, then I'm a monkey's uncle. I know what I saw in those photos, and it sure as heck wasn't the local camel auction! Yeah, we may not have found much in the way of WMD as of yet, but you have to remember that about 1/3-1/2 of the country is open desert, perfect place to bury stuff that one doesn't want found (especially since the drifting sand erases all evidence of things getting buried in a matter of days). As a matter of fact, a full squadron of Russian Foxbat fighter-bombers were found buried in one of said deserts recently (Soldier of Fortune Magazine was the only one to carry the story, AFAIK). The interesting thing is that the FoxBat's PRIMARY mission is to deliver chemical and biological weapons to targets at long range......

As for the Guantanamo bay, I've also seen intel reports (you know, the ones that have SECRET stamped on them in red letters), and we are NOT torturing anyone there. This is just another lame democrat attempt to make Bush look bad (not that he really needs help, mind you), and generally tick the military and veterans' groups off. All prisoners at Guantanamo get their 3 square meals a day (although there might be those who'd argue the point, Army food does NOT constitute a form of torture), clean bedding, and all other rights under the Geneva convention. As a matter of fact, the International Red Cross as well as the Red Crescent (both of whom I'd trust much further than the stupid, incompetant UN) have sent inspectors to Guantanamo and FOUND NO WRONG DOING!!!! Therefore I rest my case.