Quote Originally Posted by Hachifusa
Quote Originally Posted by Endless
So when someone is starving and asks you for food and you refuse, you are "evil". But if you accept, you lose something you worked for, which harms you and is therefore "evil". Argh, the dilemna.
No, I don't think if I refuse I am evil at all.
Letting someone die in front of you is good?

Morality exists on choice. But situations are amoral. If someone is starving and asks me for food, it is not evil if I give it or otherwise. If I accept, that is my own decision - it doens't harm me if I choose to do it. I mean, the only time an immoral action occurs is if that person steals the bread or if I hit him for asking.
If you are truly rational, giving something for nothing isn't an option since it's a net loss of property/wealth/money.

I wouldn't steal it, because those aren't mine. I'd offer a service - any service - and most people would probably give me an apple. If that person didn't (for whatever reason), I'd move on for the next. I recognize I cannot use force on another no matter what - that is "evil", or immoral.
Yet if everyone refuses, you die. Is that "good" or "evil"?

How am I evil for protecting that which is mine? Violence is only evil if I initiate it.
How convenient. Besides, where are the limits once you can use violence to retaliate? What is enough to give you the right to use violence? Direct violence? Direct threat? Indirect threat? Insults? An angry look? Against you? Against your family? Against anyone?


What about situations where both happen? I mean, your action has both a beneficial effect on your life and a negative effect on others around you? Is it good, or evil? The opposite action has a negative effect on you and a positive effect on the others, is it good or evil? And if we push this a little further, a decision you take is neutral to you, beneficial to everyone save one person around, is it good? Evil? Not taking that decision is detrimental to everyone except that one person just mentioned, is it good? Evil?


And I see you forgot to tell me why everyone should agree to your definition, and if everyone does or ever will.