Firearms

[Teek]

And, out of curiousity, how did that single line that you quoted clue you in to that fact?

Drop your damn defenses. I was playing around.

No, I'm just really curious why you chose to quote that single line...

You've completely ruined whatever humor I found in saying this and then some.

Because it led nicely into what I said, I guess.

[Fithos]

ok, i dont really care if you give me you age. i was just wondering if perhaps you were reacting to societys perspectives.

here is my problem with your argument. in your argument you are saying that you buy your gun Specificaly to use on other people. circumstances asied this is what im getting at. while thy are alive they have the ability to change.

now if you had said something like "i use my gun for hunting" then, well i would still have a problem with it, but people need food and hunters need permits and training and stuff before they can go hunting.

but no, you choose to argue by saying that you will use the gun against people. for your defence yes, but still against people.

alternate forms of protection are just as effective as a gun, if not more effective. your problem with them (im assuming) is that what you think of is pepper spray which you need to be almost shaking hands to use. i agree that this would not usualy work, but this is also not what im talking about.

the fact that you reacted so angrily to my question suggests to me that you are insacure about your age. i can understand not giving out personal info about yoursel but you went mad which suggests to me that even you think you are not at a proper age to argue this. let alone own a gun.

Actually, the situation you are discussing would never come up. Even if there was a nice happy community where everyone helped each other (and, given our current society, whose situation do you really think is more likely?), chances are you could rob a house and be gone before the neighbors even knew you were there. I suppose if you were attempting to rob a utopian city of psychics your plan might be a good idea. Otherwise, it's just stupid

so if a robber can get in and out of houses before the person wakes up, what good is the gun going to do you? and unless you sleep with it under your pillow (unsafe) by the time you would find out it would be to late to do anything.

also whats with your constant swearing (profanity) and otherwise assultive behavior. its things like that that makes me feel unsafe when you have a gun.

p.s.

He's the one who's posting in lengthy sentences with good grammar and capitalized letters. I'm willing to wager you will lose where you are going with this.

my grammer and punctuation is fine. the same can't be said about my spelling. "me fail englilish, thats unpossible."

p.s.s i also feel strongly against gender discrimination. i can wholeheartedly agree with you there.

[Skyblade]

ok, i dont really care if you give me you age. i was just wondering if perhaps you were reacting to societys perspectives.

here is my problem with your argument. in your argument you are saying that you buy your gun Specificaly to use on other people. circumstances asied this is what im getting at. while thy are alive they have the ability to change.

now if you had said something like "i use my gun for hunting" then, well i would still have a problem with it, but people need food and hunters need permits and training and stuff before they can go hunting.

but no, you choose to argue by saying that you will use the gun against people. for your defence yes, but still against people.

alternate forms of protection are just as effective as a gun, if not more effective. your problem with them (im assuming) is that what you think of is pepper spray which you need to be almost shaking hands to use. i agree that this would not usualy work, but this is also not what im talking about.

the fact that you reacted so angrily to my question suggests to me that you are insacure about your age. i can understand not giving out personal info about yoursel but you went mad which suggests to me that even you think you are not at a proper age to argue this. let alone own a gun.

Actually, the situation you are discussing would never come up. Even if there was a nice happy community where everyone helped each other (and, given our current society, whose situation do you really think is more likely?), chances are you could rob a house and be gone before the neighbors even knew you were there. I suppose if you were attempting to rob a utopian city of psychics your plan might be a good idea. Otherwise, it's just stupid

so if a robber can get in and out of houses before the person wakes up, what good is the gun going to do you? and unless you sleep with it under your pillow (unsafe) by the time you would find out it would be to late to do anything.

also whats with your constant swearing (profanity) and otherwise assultive behavior. its things like that that makes me feel unsafe when you have a gun.

p.s.

He's the one who's posting in lengthy sentences with good grammar and capitalized letters. I'm willing to wager you will lose where you are going with this.

my grammer and punctuation is fine. the same can't be said about my spelling. "me fail englilish, thats unpossible."

p.s.s i also feel strongly against gender discrimination. i can wholeheartedly agree with you there.

I'm glad you don't mind if I don't give you my age, because I'm not going to.

Well, as fun as it would be to use it on myself, I eventually decided it wouldn't be best to use it that way.

Hunting is a reason to have a gun, but self-defence is a perfectly acceptable reason as well.

While I am open to your suggestions as to what defensive mechanisms you would employ, I still have yet to see a single logical arguement as to why I shouldn't be allowed to use a gun. I know how to use firearms (I am in fact extremely good with them), and they are far better for personal defence than say archery or fencing (which I am also trained in).

Oh, and that wasn't me angry, that was me amused. I wasn't offended by your question, I was just wondering why you were asking it, since it had absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. As I said, it seemed to indicate that you are starting a character battle with me personally (which it still seems you are doing, in fact, this time by pointing out my [nonexistant] anger), rather than actually responding to my points.

As for my profanity, well, I call them as I see them. You may be a great person, but you are either dumber than a rock or one of the most naive people I have ever met.

Oh, and while I don't sleep with it under my pillow, I do keep it at hand at all times. There are plenty of safe places you can put it where it is still easy to access. Also, I didn't say you would get out of there before the person woke up, I said you would get out of there before the neighbors knew. Unless they can communicate by telepathy, it will probably not be easy to send an SOS.

Also, while your grammar may be decent enough, he did mention "capital letters".

[Fithos]

it is obvious that we are wasting our time. i dont like guns, you do. no amount of arguing is going to change that. if i get robbed or killed, lesson learned for me. if the whole world owns a gun and gets "an eye for an eye" mentality lesson learned for us all. if your gun fails to save your life where something else could have, lesson learned for you. i am willing to set aside difference's for the time being and who knows, maybe someday we will meet and become friends. i still do not think people shoud have a gun, mostly because i am naive and belive there is still good in everyone. but i cant influence people in this manner anymore than anyone else can. I hope that the use of a gun is never necessary for you, but if it becomes necesary for you to live, i can accept that when its a choice between your life and a robber you have the "greater" right to life at the moment. i still dont like it, but i can learn to live with it. i hope you never have to use it. but we must do what we feel is right at every moment of our lives.

you fence? me to. cool, i didnt think many people still fenced.

ohh... im getting off topic, anyways i feel it is a waste of time to continue to argue this. you know my standpoint, and i know yours. so good luck to you.

[Skyblade]

it is obvious that we are wasting our time. i dont like guns, you do. no amount of arguing is going to change that. if i get robbed or killed, lesson learned for me. if the whole world owns a gun and gets "an eye for an eye" mentality lesson learned for us all. if your gun fails to save your life where something else could have, lesson learned for you. i am willing to set aside difference's for the time being and who knows, maybe someday we will meet and become friends. i still do not think people shoud have a gun, mostly because i am naive and belive there is still good in everyone. but i cant influence people in this manner anymore than anyone else can. I hope that the use of a gun is never necessary for you, but if it becomes necesary for you to live, i can accept that when its a choice between your life and a robber you have the "greater" right to life at the moment. i still dont like it, but i can learn to live with it. i hope you never have to use it. but we must do what we feel is right at every moment of our lives.

you fence? me to. cool, i didnt think many people still fenced.

ohh... im getting off topic, anyways i feel it is a waste of time to continue to argue this. you know my standpoint, and i know yours. so good luck to you.

Yes, you have made your position quite clear. Actually, I somewhat agree. Do not mistake my intentions. It is not that I enjoy blowing people away (Mwa ha ha ha ha!!!), but simply that it can be necessary and it is extremely efficient. I hope that I never have to use one either. I hope that if I do have to use one, I don't have to kill someone with it. But that doesn't mean I will hesitate to kill someone if the situation calls for it.

(You're right, fencing isn't the most popular sport. I'm not sure why, because it is awesome as hell.)

[eestlinc]

this thread has had a (semi) good long life. if you want to discuss guns, make a new thread.