View Poll Results: Gun Control: What extent?

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  • Nobody should legally have a gun, ever.

    6 7.41%
  • Only police, military, and other law-enforcement agents should be able to legally have guns.

    27 33.33%
  • Law-abiding citizens can legally own guns--no felons, violent criminals, minors, etc.

    37 45.68%
  • Give 'em to everybody. The more guns, the better.

    4 4.94%
  • Let everybody have any type of firearm they can afford--if you can buy a .50-cal, more power to you.

    7 8.64%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    if americans are allowed to have guns because guns don't kill people. why can't they have large quantities have acetone peroxide? explosives don't kill people, people do.
    That's true. Let's legalize it.

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    if they do can i carry it on a bus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    if they do can i carry it on a bus?
    Yup. So long as you've taken the proper precautions to ensure there is no risk of accidental detonation, or that the risk is as small as possible.

    Also, kinda stop the pathos argument, it's tiresome and doesn't work. Freedom > Safety, to paraphrase ol' Ben Franklin.

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    so i should have the right to carry high explosives on the top of a london bus? two people have done that in the last 4 weeks. no good came of that freedom.

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    Well owning a gun and taking the gun wherever you wish are different things. When someone keeps the gun at home then its pretty much under most precautions to be fine. But should someone just tout it wherever they wish then its a problem because anyone and everyone can own a gun and bad thing smight happen. Hence why there are control laws that keep the gun safe in your home for protection only. The only place where i can fathom taking your gun to is the range to practice.

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    I belive Guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early from work do.
    so how many people are you going to kill by walking in and saying BANG!!!!!

    seriously guns kill people.

    "put a weapon in your hand and eventually it will be used"
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    its true. you get desensitized to frequintly it is allowed. what you think is wrong today, may seem like normal a few years from now.

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    The point is people that are going to have a gun to shoot you will eventually shoot you anyway guns legalized or not. So its good to have one for countermeasures. Looking at weapons, knives are WAY more dangerious than guns. You can easily and unsuspiciously walk up to someone and stab them somewhere. Not the arm but somewhere like organs in your stomach or your backside easily casuing death fast and much more deadlier than the gun could.

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    I completeley agree with ya lionx. Tabooing things just ssem to make them a hotter subject, no?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    so i should have the right to carry high explosives on the top of a london bus? two people have done that in the last 4 weeks. no good came of that freedom.
    Yes, and that's reason enough to trample on the freedoms of the sixty million of us Brits who aren't going to be doing a thing like that.

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    so i should have the right to carry high explosives on the top of a london bus? two people have done that in the last 4 weeks. no good came of that freedom.
    They never had that freedom in the first place, now did they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nik0tine
    They never had that freedom in the first place, now did they?
    I love you, you know. You're the best liberal I ever met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionx
    The point is people that are going to have a gun to shoot you will eventually shoot you anyway guns legalized or not. So its good to have one for countermeasures. Looking at weapons, knives are WAY more dangerious than guns. You can easily and unsuspiciously walk up to someone and stab them somewhere. Not the arm but somewhere like organs in your stomach or your backside easily casuing death fast and much more deadlier than the gun could.

    so you are saying we should make it easier for people to kill others.

    the majority of people destined to be shot will never own a gun in their lives. what good is legalizing them for protection when the people who need protecting woulnt buy them anyways because they feel they are to dangerous.

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    I love you, you know. You're the best liberal I ever met.
    and you do realize that you are the best conservative that I've ever met, right?

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    so you are saying we should make it easier for people to kill others.

    the majority of people destined to be shot will never own a gun in their lives. what good is legalizing them for protection when the people who need protecting woulnt buy them anyways because they feel they are to dangerous.
    So you are saying that by not promoting guns for self-defense it would save the people out there that would be shot anyway? If they think they are so dangerious and only madmen would buy guns, their loss, their life. Your way of thinking is no better than just leaving people be. Why take self-defense courses when you are going to be shot anyway, why do we even fight back? No! Let them walk over us i say! :rolleyes2

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    a large portion of people shot are shot on accident. if you allow more people to own guns, their are more chances for such accidents to occur.

    why do we have so many self defense courses, and defensive weapons. their should never be a need to use them.

    if you allow the public to have guns you are consenting murder, murder that could have been avoided. and its true some people will find a way to get guns back, but that is a small percentage of the people who would actully use them.

    so lets say we just give rhem to good law abiding citizens, whats stopping those people from using them, or selling them to "Lower class citezens"

    you woulnt stop all violance by getting rid of guns, but you could stop a large portion of it.

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