Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
killing a man for trespass? i would rather live in iran. i would only get my hand chopped off for theft there. far better. and you would hit someone for insulting you? that just shows your level. "an eye for an eye" but it's not really it's a vcr for your pulse. and your lucky you are able to hold a gun with your lack of remorse for assualt.
Oh sweet smurfing God above us, please hit yourself in the head really hard and try reading this thread again. Not one person here has said that death is a proportionate penalty for theft. As has been said repeatedly however, your house is not a court of law, it is your home. It is where you and your family live, it is where your most beloved possessions are, and it is in it's best form where you belong. It is not a court of a law, it is a situation where you are under attack.

you talk of normal people like they are segregated from nutters. thomas hamilton didn't have a word against him before he shot up a primary school. they aren't easy to spot. one day they just turn round and shoot someone. alot of murderers have no record before they end up killing someone.
Erm, wtf? He said that there were few enough cases of 'nutters' for their ability to acquire guns to be too small to outweigh the benefits of innocent, law-abiding citizens who like the idea of personal defense owning guns. You've completely missed, or ignored, what he was saying.

"First, a lot of gun owners make it very well known that they own a gun." i was talking about the criminal.
And incredibly enough, so was he. If you know someone has a gun, you're less likely to mess with them than if you think they might, and in turn those are less easy targets than those you know don't have guns.

"Criminals on the other hand wouldn't have any problem at all." they would. as soon as you fid a gun on them or their property you can get them put away for a while. no need to wait for them to injure someone or kill them.
Yes, because that's working so well right now, isn't it? There certainly isn't a black market for firearms in Britain, oh no, not at all.

Edit: Plus, would you support random stop-and-searches, or entering people's houses without due suspicion to search for firearms?