The world is flat!

[Squall of SeeD]

My theory on this subject is that the Zanarkand Tidus and Jecht are from is an aeon as many before me have pointed out, everyone inside being an aeon. What I think though, is that this Zanarkand aeon is located right next to its fayths, the reason is that nobody from Spira ever noticed this and that there is a mysterious tornado of water near the cluster of fayth used for Zanarkand and its inhabitants. The tornado could be concealing a microworld, that sin and Yu Yevon could shrink down and enter, but nobody else from spira could, and that people from the Zanarkand aeon could go far enough out to sea that they'd cross into spira but losing energy from the transition between the worlds could knock you out long enough to get lost in the seas of Spira.

There's really nothing to suggest that, though It's far more simple just to conclude that it's an Aeon manifested the same as all other Aeons and that it lies out at sea somewhere.

As for the torrent of energy on Mt. Gagazet, that's just the flow of memory from the Fayth that is used to manifest the city.

[Destai]

Told ya he'd know.

[abrojtm]

Assuming that Dream Zanarkand (it is called a dream of the fayth after all. All aeons are dreams of the fayth) is in the middle of the Spiran Ocean doesn't make any sense at all. For one thing, when you are on board the Airship, you can pick any coordinate on the map to explore. Therefore, if Dream Zanarkand was actually in Spira, you could go to it. Also, the Al Bhed have assumingly been exploring the ocean for years. They have machina boats, and gear to be well-equipped for diving and riding throughout the ocean.

Yuna: (narrating) Sacred Mt. Gagazet. Silent guardian of Zanarkand, city of the
dead. When the fayth disappeared, the clouds enshrouding the mountain began to
thin and disperse... ...revealing long-forgotten ruins among its peaks.

-From FFX-2

To me, it was always safe to assume that the Dream Zanarkand existed above these ruins, with a certain amount of water around it.
Perhaps the Dream Zanarkand truly is "flat", and Jecht came into Spira by falling off of the water, after all, it is a fact that Jecht went out on a boating trip and never returned.

[Squall of SeeD]

Assuming that Dream Zanarkand (it is called a dream of the fayth after all. All aeons are dreams of the fayth) is in the middle of the Spiran Ocean doesn't make any sense at all. For one thing, when you are on board the Airship, you can pick any coordinate on the map to explore.

Any coordinate that the developers intended for you to go to, yes.

Therefore, if Dream Zanarkand was actually in Spira, you could go to it.

Unless the developers didn't want you to.

Also, the Al Bhed have assumingly been exploring the ocean for years. They have machina boats, and gear to be well-equipped for diving and riding throughout the ocean.

It's probably a fairly big ocean. In support of this, I'll put a slight spin on what you just said: "The Al Bhed have presumably been exploring the ocean for years. They have Machina boat and gear to be well-equipped for diving and riding throughout the ocean, yet it's only at the beginning of the game that they've discovered the Airship."

For that matter, there was another Airship that hadn't yet been discovered, it being the Celsius and frozen in an ice sheet to the north that we can't visit and don't ever see on Spira's map:

(From Final Fantasy X-2)

Yuna: It's like you're talking to a person!

Buddy: Of course! After all, this ship is one of the Gullwings too,
y'know.

Yuna: She's been around longer than me, huh?

Buddy: Me and her met for the first time right after you brought us
this Calm of yours. I'd caught word that an old airship was at the
bottom of the sea way up in the north. Me and Brother made our way
through a sea of ice. A fog moved in, so thick we couldn't tell west
from east. On top of that we were freezing our blitzballs off. Yep, I
thought we were done for. Then it appeared above us: a single gull,
flying along out of nowhere. As if it had come to save us, right? We
didn't have a lot of options, so me and Brother chased after that gull
with everything we had left. And by some stroke of luck, we found this
ship nestled within the ice.

Buddy: Along with our winged rescuer.

Yuna: Oh! So that's why we're the Gullwings!

It's obviously fallacious to argue that we could visit any place in Spira when we don't see this sea of ice that Buddy speaks of and which obviously existed.

As far as it goes, the Planet is not small in the first place. Sin is huge, but is a tiny speck in comparsion to the Planet as a whole. Check out the video entitled "Gravity Sucks" at BlueLaguna.net to see what I mean:

http://bluelaguna.net/movies/ffx/fmvs.php


If you can't download it, then check out these screenshots, though without the video, it's not as easy to convey the scale:

http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gravija9fo.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija29bb.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija38ls.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija44yz.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija53ij.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija65qd.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija78ng.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ravija82ls.jpg


If you've got the game, you can always fire it up and go to Luca and watch the Gravity Sucks FMV, as well. Looking at how large that section of the Planet seen in the FMV is, and then taking into account that the Planet has to be a symmetrical sphere, hopefully you can see that the Planet is really damn big.

Also, taking into account Sin's size relative to Bevelle, and then considering how small Sin is compared to that one section of the Planet we get to see, that should convey to you a sense of how small the Spiran mainland is and how much more space there is that we never get to see.

To me, it was always safe to assume that the Dream Zanarkand existed above these ruins, with a certain amount of water around it.

And in all that time, no one would have noticed Sin flying up into the sky directly above Mt. Gagazet? That seems less than likely. For that matter, it's not as though an Aeon has to be manifested near its Fayth. Valefor's Fayth is back in Besaid, but she can be manifested in Zanarkand just fine.

Perhaps the Dream Zanarkand truly is "flat", and Jecht came into Spira by falling off of the water, after all, it is a fact that Jecht went out on a boating trip and never returned.

He ended up in Spira because he came into contact with Sin, the same as Tidus did, only he did so while he was out at sea training instead of doing so in the sky above Aeon Zanarkand.

[Christmas]

Anyway, if any of the residents discovered reason to believe that more existed outside of their city, or began to ponder if there was anything else in the world, Yu Yevon removed those thoughts from their minds. What made Tidus and Jecht so different from the others that the Bahamut Fayth told them that they had become more than dreams is that when they were touched by Sin, it somehow rewired them to where they had become completely autonomous. Yu Yevon could no longer alter their knowledge of what lay outside their city.

You know, when I first played FFVII and seeing I am alway at a city called Midgar, I thought that my world is Midgar and Midgar alone and never thought of what or is there something out of Midgar or can you get out of Midgar.

Sin isn't an Aeon anyway, actually. Sin is just a whole lot of Pyreflies held together by Gravity Spells.

Considering seeing all his lethal attack are gravity based, it make sense.

[Levian]

Let's just settle things by agreeing that Spira is donut-shaped. That way everybody's a winner. :grinpink: or a loser, depending on how you see it.