Garden´s idea

**Future Esthar** · 06-27-2005, 09:57 PM

Think a little.

**Sir Bahamut** · 06-27-2005, 10:05 PM

I suppose you're referring to the fact that the idea behind Garden seemingly has no traceable origin. After all, Edea finds out about "SeeD" and "Garden" when Squall tells her in the ending. However, Squall knows about "SeeD" and "Garden" because Edea founded them.

The cause and effect between these events would be completely circular, meaning that asking who's idea it was first would be as pointless as asking where the 'starting point' of a circle is.

That is, of course assuming that time in FF8 is unchanging. If time wasn't unchanging, but the loop rather came to be at some finite time in the past(if time was unchanging, the loop would have always been like we see it in the game) the origin of SeeD might have had a meaningful origin somewhere in the time before Ultimecia first travelled back to the past.

That what you had in mind?

**Chris** · 06-27-2005, 10:11 PM

The Garden's were founded by Cid and Edea... or am I completely crazy?

**Future Esthar** · 06-27-2005, 10:17 PM

That´s right Sir Bahamut.

EDIT: You can delete your own posts, you know. -Murder

**boys from the dwarf** · 06-28-2005, 06:57 AM

hoever said the one below the timeloop option is an idiot unless they havent completed the game yet.

**MushroomZOMBIE** · 06-28-2005, 10:22 PM

Edea had nothing better to do......

& it became a very good idea.Unlike me.

**Alexander** · 06-28-2005, 11:53 PM

Or it is simply one of the many FFVIII's plotholes Square didn't care to fill. *shot*

**Future Esthar** · 06-29-2005, 12:18 AM

Of course it is.
By the way,your signature is interesting Alexander.That is Square Enix forums.I discovered that forum today and already saw that dialogue about how FF sell.What a coincidence.And that thing about FFIX i believe was there also.

**Sir Bahamut** · 06-29-2005, 01:17 AM

It's not a plothole if time is unchanging. Then it would just be another example of what strange things may occur within a timeloop. If time is changing, then it would simply be something they didn't find important enough to explain fully.

**Alexander** · 06-29-2005, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut

It's not a plothole if time is unchanging. Then it would just be another example of what strange things may occur within a timeloop. If time is changing, then it would simply be something they didn't find important enough to explain fully.

I was kidding about the plot hole. ô.o

And about my signature. To. It is not Square Enix forums. I'm not from there. And... this guy is from another forum, but the quote is from MSN. XD

**Future Esthar** · 06-29-2005, 02:06 PM

But at least I saw it there.

**Wuggly Blight** · 06-29-2005, 05:46 PM

I dont think its any amazing time whatever, I think she after she caem across her powers she new, by history of what was likely to happen and thus she just planned in advanced. The Garden and SeeD and whatever was just creativity on Cid and Her parts.

**Aphelion** · 06-29-2005, 06:43 PM

Last option. Inspiration comes from all sorts of things, even accidents...

**Xaven** · 06-30-2005, 08:12 PM

You make the wierdest polls...

Anyway, I voted the 1st and 4th choice. (They both gave her the idea!)

**The Anarchy Angel** · 07-03-2005, 05:57 PM

We all know it was when she was bitten by that mad looking bite bug

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