You forgot that Enfeebling is very important and that without a RDM or NIN its impossibly hard to land Enfeebles...RDMs are good for that. Refresher and Enfeebler, Healing and Nuking second, HOWEVER they are to fit those roles when called upon to do so. Hence why BLM and WHM subs are preffered both to be lvled up.
Yes, but he is complaining about the downtime of the BLM job at the early levels. He can level RDM to 18, get a subjob and switch to BLM and he will have a better Elemental skill from levelling RDM, and not to mention healing spells with a WHM subjob.
Edited to prevent confusion.
Last edited by UltimateSpamGrover; 07-20-2005 at 07:40 AM.
I don't know where you're coming from saying that /RDM would increase a BLM's elemental magic skill. As far as I know the only way a sub affected skill levels was if the sub had skills that the main job lacked. For example, subbing WHM you'd get a healing magic skill with the cap of the level of your sub. I do not believe that by adding /RDM (which has an elemental magic skill, obviously) to BLM would have any effect on the cap for elemental magic at all.
It's for these reasons why /RDM in almost any situation is vastly inferior. Not only does it add new spells slower (like cure at Lv6 instead of Lv1 with a WHM sub) but the healing magic cap would be lower and thus you would heal for less damage. Also, /WHM also a slightly better addition to your MP pool. Soloin' with /WHM is therefor far more efficient.
Only time i would say RDM sub is good is vs Elementals in TuLia for Phalanx but they are VT therefore the only good time.
Red Mage is a good sub 64+ if your party lacks a reliable source of Dispel. Some Red Mages and Bards don't do this as fast as a party might need, some hardly do it at all, and some try to do it but can't get the spell to land. If getting that crab dispelled is the key to getting more chains, /rdm isn't a bad idea. I have a static with a good Bard, so I'm shielded from the realities of life, which include a whole plethora of Rdm's and Brd's that grabbed a free ride on Refresh/Ballad and never learned their jobs. Thus, I sub nothing but Whm, and I don't see that changing. Having the capability to do someone else's job when they aren't up to par is what a Blm's subjob is all about after all, and sometimes, it's not the Whm you have to cover. Fortunately, I have a great summoner in my static as well, so I'm lucky if I get to do any non blm spells at all aside from a few whm enfeebles. I had to ask to cast the Barspells before battle, just to keep enhancing capped.
Knock yourselves down.
hehehe.....ive been playing with the much loathed blm a lot more now.......tbh ive no idea what i was moaning about...i now love it to death......blm rulez...not as much as whm...but i never been one for following routine......
so no longer moaning about blm hehe.......
but can i ask why the hell the drain scroll is worth 90k??????? its pants....
Gimme a break!
There is no good without evil.....
....So..Is it good to be evil or evil to be good
Much loathed? I think that's a bit of an overstatement. I always thought that Black Mage was one of the more popular jobs. I love playing BLM and I've never moaned about it. I think it's a thoroughly fun job.
Drain doesn't go for that much on my server, but I can understand why it's so expensive. Drain is a wonderful spell. Anyone who's partied with me knows how giddy I get when Drain does a a bucket load of damage. And besides, it's a very easy scroll to quest for. If you're at least rank 2 in Sandy, it should only take you a few hours to earn enough fame to do it.
I never said sub RDM to BLM, I suggested levelling RDM ahead of time to level your Elemental Skill (Because all skills affect ALL jobs ) and switching to BLM/WHM after he gets RDM 18, sorry I didn't make my point clearly.Originally Posted by Zaphier
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