Plus, the draft explicitly violates the 13th amendment.
If compulsory service isn't "involuntary servitude," I don't know what is.Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
I read a very interesting article about a year and a half ago about the draft, saying that the Bush administration was going to have it ready to be implemented by March 2004. I think that was the date, anyway. It wasn't saying the draft would be reinstated, but that if the need was there, the service would be ready. It also discussed the fact that the government was going to try to make it much harder to avoid the draft--it will be more difficult to flee to Canada, and a college education will no longer be an excuse, among other things I can't remember. It's pretty scary, really.
This makes me so glad I am going into college(if I recall right college is an exemptitory.. right?).
Anyways even if it isn't I would just follow nik0tine's and Hachifusa's lead.
And I also aggree that I just would cooperate. I believe in self-defense and that is all. Even compulsisory service doesn't annoy me so much that(since I imagine you are taught some things that may help you later in life), it is that I may have to fight for something I don't believe in. I would go straight to the nearest base and sign up or whatever if we WERE ATTACKED and self defense was needed. However this war was a bunch of crock. If he wants to institute the draft I say we also have him join us and those that supported it.. so they can get it first hand.
Oh yes, last I checked women were forbidden to sign up for the draft. What if a woman was patriotic???? Anyways it prolly won't include women... which I guess is a form of sexism.. right?
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
I don't think college will be an exemption anymore, but I could be wrong. Also, I assume that women may also get drafted. The neo conservatives aren't as sexist or racist as the conventional Republican. These guys will throw as many of our lives away as possible, so long as it furthers thier twisted cause. I highly doubt that women and college students will get out of this one.
If the draft is implemented there will just be a HUGE over crowding of jails and people leaving the country to go to other countries to evade this. So many people don't agree with this war at this point that it is a clear majority. If the draft were enacted it would mean damn near death to the republican party in the next elections.
It isn't going to happen. To many people in congress would get kicked out because of something like this and all the other implications this would require.
The only way I would serve my country is if we are invaded and I have to defend it. When we go out war like in Vietnam and Iraq then smurf them.
Don't males register for possible drafting at 18? For girls it's voluntary.Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Anyway, there will be no draft. Not a chance.
so we won't accept a draft, yet we won't accept failure in Iraq either. Once again, something's got to give.
Winning in Iraq doesn't justify slavery - though I don't think it's that bad, yet.
EDIT: I repeat, wartime does not justify the infringement of individual rights in any manner at all. You can't be forced to quarter soldiers(5th amendment, I think), you can't be forced to agree with the government(not since the 1920s Sedition Act) despite how much Bush is trying, you can't be forced into "involuntary servitude"(13th amendment). The constitution and laws are not there only for the government to abide by unless they "really really want to" enslave you.
Yes, all males - under penalty of jail time - are forced to register at 18. Women don't have to register(can they even register?), but they can enlist whenever.Don't males register for possible drafting at 18? For girls it's voluntary.
Hey for every1 who says they'd leave, Why wait???
OH, right! Its because ur enjoying the freedom and liberty that came from the soldiers who died before while protecting it.
I dont agree with the war either, but thats not gonna stop me from doing my part. For every draft dodger the military has to find someone to take their place. I just couldnt sleep at night if i did that.
I'm not leaving because it's cheaper to finish college over here than it would be in the UK, which is where I plan to move when I finish. However, if the draft were enacted it would be enough to send me overseas ahead of time.
And I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with the "we owe our freedom to the soldiers before us" bit. Of course we owe our freedom to the soldiers who fought in wars like the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812, but that's because those wars actually threatened our independence and security as a country. Surely the war in Iraq doesn't, and trying to equate the two is a logical fallacy.
Actually I won't leave.. I just won't cooperate.
And how, may I ask, is the war in Iraq preserving our freedom?
I don't follow like a sheep. I have been given a mind and a decent education, and I feel I am expected to use it.
As a disclaimer I would have faught against Bin Laden since he actually had just done something to us. Personally I don't recall Iraq attacking the U.S. with force just before we declared war. I would have faught in WWI and WWII. But in Iraq I will refuse. They can send me to the front lines if they wish.. but I won't fire my gun. And if I see my fellow soldiers commiting an act I see as wrong.. and they refuse to stop. I would have no qualms about using my gun on freindlies.
And last I checked, a couple months ago just turned 18, women weren't allowed to sign up for the draft.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
screw you my dad said "A black man has no place ina a white man's army."
yeah lol heck no I'm going to canada.
The U.S. government actually made an agreement with Canada that draft dodgers will not be able to flee there. I'm pretty sure you can still go overseas, though.
What about Mexico?
Might be worse, who knows.
well I have a few friends in mexico.The deal with me a black male.Basicly theres nothing much for me to fight for. in the USa. I mean goto war and join the army in a country thats ran by caucasins yeah pretty much ain't much to figh tfor.
Plus on a broader scale there ain't much to fight for.For anybody due to the fact that its a illegal war. And people are dying basicly for one man's greed.
/Is that fair that someone mus tbe over patriotic screw that crap this is like vietnam except less casualties..This ain't WW2 this ain't WW1 this ain't the Seminole war when my ancestors fought the americans.This ain't the civil war this ain't the revolutionary war.This is a oil war and one thats not worth fighitng and dying for.
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