If the masses simply ignore the draft the national guard will come in town to town city to city collecting young men who look willing to fight.Trst me they'll do it if they really do run short on men powerOriginally Posted by Marick
If the masses simply ignore the draft the national guard will come in town to town city to city collecting young men who look willing to fight.Trst me they'll do it if they really do run short on men power
If that happens, lordblazer, why don't we just shoot the national gaurd? I seriously would have no problem with a revolution if there was a draft. Fortunately, there won't be.
yeah pretty much but seriously there would be a forced draft if mass amounts of peoe refuse to coop.Local militia mainly.
There sure is a lot of talk about something that's not even close to likely to happen.
Aside from anything else, it's quite plain that Bush wouldn't be able to hold the country together. More and more are decrying the Iraq war, and it's pretty plain that any attempt at a draft would seriously piss off a reasonably large whack of the population.
I am, however, against a draft in all situations. There's no justification for it, except possibly hen your nation is being invaded; even in that case I would argue that people should still join up of their own volition, as I'm pretty sure your own cities being attacked with galvanise a lot of people into it.
If a draft was instated, all the reserves would be called first, which means all the National Guards would become part of the core army so their wouldn't be any national reserve anymore. They would become army reserve. And, guess what, there wouldn't be any National Guard anymore. If after all that there still was a need for reserves and civilians were drafted, it would have to be the local police or FBI that would have to go after you.
And honestly, I think I have more chances to win the lottery rather than seeing a draft in the US.
And then there is Death
Conscription goes against everything a free society stands for. Our country was founded on the premise of the protection of our freedoms of life, liberty, and property. We are supposed to be united for the common defense, which is the only possible reason to have a draft, and still a flimsy one at that. Iraq is no threat to us. It never was.
Either way, I cannot allow myself to be drafted, if only because I am a pacifist, and cannot bring harm to another person, much less kill them. These have been core beliefs of mine long before I joined a belief system that held pacifism as it's core belief as well. Despite this, parts of what was going to become the new draft bill in 2004 establish that I am no longer able to "hide" behind my collegiate intentions. It also said that my beliefs would not help me either, as they would just assign me to a non-combat post, or relocate me to another part of the country for agricultural, or educational purposes.
I can understand a service in your hometown instead of military service, but relocation is almost as bad as compusory military service.
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Somehow, instituting the draft anywhere in the near future would seem like a risky proposition to me. Everyone makes Iraq out to be another Vietnam, but the numbers on casualties just don't support that.
That's not to say I'd eagerly jump into the fray if I was called upon. Yeah, I'd probably do it, but certainly not eagerly.
As someone mentioned before, though, Bush's approval ratings have continually slipped for a long time now, and I doubt introducting the draft is going to help him any. "Political suicide", someone said, and that's about right.
If a draft was instated, all the reserves would be called first, which means all the National Guards would become part of the core army so their wouldn't be any national reserve anymore. They would become army reserve. And, guess what, there wouldn't be any National Guard anymore. If after all that there still was a need for reserves and civilians were drafted, it would have to be the local police or FBI that would have to go after you.
And honestly, I think I have more chances to win the lottery rather than seeing a draft in the US.
some of the reserves are being called dude.
I applaud you. I would totally be up for a revolution.
so true
Hence, they wouldn't be able to come into the towns. FBI and Police just are not enough man-power to gather the troops needed, if such an instance were to happen.
Besides, wars are technological now. Tanks = 20 good men, 20 good men = about 40-60. Our armies are well trained and organized. A draft, even if we need more men, seems unlikely..
By the way, what the hell does Bush care if his ratings fall? He'll never again be president.
Also, why all the rap on the president. Let's not that CONGRESS must approve the draft. And if they do, you really need to start complaining to Congress. In the end, it's Congress that really calls nearly all the decisions.
If Bush cares at all about his party then he would do everything he can to get ratings into the positive again. If he does a bad job for the next 4 years and the majority of people think that(by a decent margin) then there is a very likely chance that who ever runs next in his party will lose. People would want change and the same party would mean no change. That is how it is viewed at least.
what you must understand about bush is.He is just in the oval office to get him and his buddies rich.
You, as one in "the service," should know that the level of expertise and training required for millitary activity now is infinitely more than it was during the draft days of 50-60 years ago. There is much a greater requirement of technical/weapons knowledge now than before. Far more. Having a draft would be millitarily inefficient, therefore, because the trained soldiers who actually know what they're doing would be held back by the inexpireinced draftees.
Plus, a draft violates every concept of a free society.
isn't to bring up the draft a sign of losing or the fear of losing?
The days of rounding up 200 hardy men, handing them a rifle and telling them which general direction to shoot to win a battle are over. Iraq isn't Vietnam. It's unpopular, but it's a totally different ballgame in terms of strategy. I don't think gathering all the unwilling, disgruntled highschool and college students you can find and throwing them onto the battlefield after minimal training will do anything to further our cause. Think of it this way: Right now, we have enthusiastic, and very highly trained military forces in Iraq. The insurgents are still claiming casualties. Replace the words highly trained with minimally trained, and enthusiastic with disgruntled, and try and imagine the situation improving in the slightest. I can't.
Knock yourselves down.
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